View Poll Results: Do you agree with my criticisms?
Should have flat wiper blades



18
19.15%
Should have integrated antenna



24
25.53%
Should have direct injection



45
47.87%
Don't care for any of the above



45
47.87%
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Minor Criticisms of the new EVO
Just went to the NAIAS and saw the car in person.
Looks sweet.
I like almost everything about the car except:
1. Old school window wiper blades: Most new cars these days use the flat wiper blade design.
2. Old school radio antenna: On the regular lancer and the EVO, they had a rear roof mounter radio antenna. New cars these days use a hidden radio antenna for a cleaner look.
3. Lack of direct injection: I spoke with the Mitsubishi rep, and he said that it's most likely NOT going to be direct injected!!! Gasoline direct injection with turbo charging is the way to go! Look at the Audi A3 with won a Wards auto 2007 engine of the year award! Even GM is getting into the game by put the GDI on it's new Ecotec engines for the Solstice GXP...
I know that there the car is still a year away from being saleable, but, I hope that Mitsubishi will not cut corners and incorporate all the things above! Well, I'll probably still buy the car if they don't, but, if it's going to be a new car, it better come with all the latest stuff!
Looks sweet.
I like almost everything about the car except:
1. Old school window wiper blades: Most new cars these days use the flat wiper blade design.
2. Old school radio antenna: On the regular lancer and the EVO, they had a rear roof mounter radio antenna. New cars these days use a hidden radio antenna for a cleaner look.
3. Lack of direct injection: I spoke with the Mitsubishi rep, and he said that it's most likely NOT going to be direct injected!!! Gasoline direct injection with turbo charging is the way to go! Look at the Audi A3 with won a Wards auto 2007 engine of the year award! Even GM is getting into the game by put the GDI on it's new Ecotec engines for the Solstice GXP...
I know that there the car is still a year away from being saleable, but, I hope that Mitsubishi will not cut corners and incorporate all the things above! Well, I'll probably still buy the car if they don't, but, if it's going to be a new car, it better come with all the latest stuff!
I'm partial to small displacement engines with high specific outputs.
I'm glad they didn't decide to upsize the engine.
There is not a slushbox. It's an automated manual. F1 cars use this kind of transmission. I'm all for this tech.
The aluminum block will make the engine lighter, all, it remains to be see how robust the block will be for higher outputs. If I were to get this car, I wouldn't be boosting it too much, so it's not really a concern for me.
I'm glad they didn't decide to upsize the engine.
There is not a slushbox. It's an automated manual. F1 cars use this kind of transmission. I'm all for this tech.
The aluminum block will make the engine lighter, all, it remains to be see how robust the block will be for higher outputs. If I were to get this car, I wouldn't be boosting it too much, so it's not really a concern for me.
Did you see the car in person?
I think it looks much better than current EVO front end.
The new body shape uses contemporary styling cues, and make the car look more high end.
IMO though I like the new look!
I think it looks much better than current EVO front end.
The new body shape uses contemporary styling cues, and make the car look more high end.
IMO though I like the new look!
Don't care about the wiper blades (can be replaced) or the antenna. Direct injection is a pain to tune from what I've read. I'd be more concerned about the engine orientation, that's going to be a pain to work on. Aluminum block is good, and if you don't like the dual-clutch auto, then get the manual.
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Complaints about the wiper blades and antennae? Has it really come down to this now? Lest you forget that the car shown at the NAIAS is not the final production model. It's still a concept.
As for turbo placement...
doesn't give a damn about aftermarket so why should they care how difficult their design makes for aftermarket enhancements?
It's called an Evolution for a reason...it evolves. If it kept the same engine and trans it wouldn't really evolve much now would it? Evolution sometimes takes leaps and bounds...I think it's about time for a new platform...but thats just MHO.
As for turbo placement...
doesn't give a damn about aftermarket so why should they care how difficult their design makes for aftermarket enhancements?It's called an Evolution for a reason...it evolves. If it kept the same engine and trans it wouldn't really evolve much now would it? Evolution sometimes takes leaps and bounds...I think it's about time for a new platform...but thats just MHO.
Yes, DI is more difficult to tune because the timing of when the fuel is injected and how many discrete injection events per cyclinder are important.
I think this would be a challenge for tuners, but the benefits:
1. Intake charge cooling from the evaporation of the fuel
2. Higher allowable boost
3. Reduced pumping losses
4. Better low end torque
I think the benefits of DI out weigh the difficulty of tuning...
Yes wiper blades are replaceable as long as the some company comes out with them. Have you seen any retrofit kits for older cars to have "flat" wiper blades?
Change of orientation is for one reason!
Emissions! Having the exhaust ports on the rear side of the engine enable the catalaysts to be lit faster. As a side benefit, weight distribution of the turbo will be placed closed to the center of the car.
The car is NOT going to be dual clutch. It's going to a computer controlled single clutch transmission.
I think this would be a challenge for tuners, but the benefits:
1. Intake charge cooling from the evaporation of the fuel
2. Higher allowable boost
3. Reduced pumping losses
4. Better low end torque
I think the benefits of DI out weigh the difficulty of tuning...
Yes wiper blades are replaceable as long as the some company comes out with them. Have you seen any retrofit kits for older cars to have "flat" wiper blades?
Change of orientation is for one reason!
Emissions! Having the exhaust ports on the rear side of the engine enable the catalaysts to be lit faster. As a side benefit, weight distribution of the turbo will be placed closed to the center of the car.
The car is NOT going to be dual clutch. It's going to a computer controlled single clutch transmission.
Don't care about the wiper blades (can be replaced) or the antenna. Direct injection is a pain to tune from what I've read. I'd be more concerned about the engine orientation, that's going to be a pain to work on. Aluminum block is good, and if you don't like the dual-clutch auto, then get the manual. 

Haha, well, that's why I titled my post "MINOR" criticisms... I've already stated that I almost everything about the car....
The car is a totally new platform.
I don't think the car is using the old platform with new sheetmetal body work.
Agree, the car is not in production, so we don't know all the details, I'm just point out the things I've observed so far... I hope they fix these things.
The car is a totally new platform.
I don't think the car is using the old platform with new sheetmetal body work.
Agree, the car is not in production, so we don't know all the details, I'm just point out the things I've observed so far... I hope they fix these things.
Complaints about the wiper blades and antennae? Has it really come down to this now? Lest you forget that the car shown at the NAIAS is not the final production model. It's still a concept.
As for turbo placement...
doesn't give a damn about aftermarket so why should they care how difficult their design makes for aftermarket enhancements?
It's called an Evolution for a reason...it evolves. If it kept the same engine and trans it wouldn't really evolve much now would it? Evolution sometimes takes leaps and bounds...I think it's about time for a new platform...but thats just MHO.
As for turbo placement...
doesn't give a damn about aftermarket so why should they care how difficult their design makes for aftermarket enhancements?It's called an Evolution for a reason...it evolves. If it kept the same engine and trans it wouldn't really evolve much now would it? Evolution sometimes takes leaps and bounds...I think it's about time for a new platform...but thats just MHO.
Last edited by taumax; Jan 21, 2007 at 11:40 AM. Reason: Adding more comments
That's disappointing.








