I've read around, and i c that the DSG can be found in exotics like ferraris and so on... so wouldnt that shead some light in the fact that maybe the mitsu DSG could probably be either as strong or built to be as strong as the DSG Tranny found in these exotic rides? and if its possible to made stronger, then i wonder... HOW?

 

 

I like mitsubishi, but their products usually fail after a lot of strain. I would say not as strong.

 

i'm hoping the dsg trans will have good aftermarket support to increase it's torque capacity, also for the evo 8 there's kits you can modify the ACD pressures even change the controller (jap model only)

 

I don't mean to pick on you, but where do you get your information? Come on man, seriously. Posts like these are a problem, because they have no basis on any facts or at least a professional opinion.

Anyways, my understanding is that Mitsubishi doesn't really have intellectual property rights to this style transmission, so they won't be making it. VW, Audi, etc. does not manufacture these either. It's made by an independent manufacturer.

I believe it's Borg Warner who makes these transmissions. It's likely going to be an OEM application, where Mitsubishi gives them the specs and BW will design and fabricate a transmission to the application. I don't think they can just swap in a trans that was intended for a VW or an Audi into the X. It might be possible that they incorporate the possibility of higher torque capacity (either included as standard or upgradeable) into the design, however. It's hard to say at this point though. Mitsubishi has released very little on specifics; we don't even know the exact horsepower specs.

If Mitsubishi has any intension at all to race the X, it's likely that it will at least be capable with a few upgrades to handle race duty. The meshed gears, shafts, case, etc. are probably strong as is from the manufacturer, but the clutches and whatnot might have to be upgraded. The hydraulics might have to be as well, although it may be possible the controller can just be re-flashed or whatever to increase pressures and such.

This is all conjecture of course. This is just how I would do it if I were to design it. My guess would be that the transmission will comes as a street trim configuration to keep costs down, but is capable of accepting more expensive heavier duty components for higher torque applications.

Mitsubishi knows that a sizable percentage of their consumer base isn't just happy with stock trim, so "room to grow" is likely to be incorporated into the design. Just because Mitsubishi doesn't like to honor warranty work when mods are made, it doesn't necessarily mean they will make their designs unfriendly to mods. It just wouldn't make sense to have their product so close to point of failure; it's just more stuff for them to fix under warranty.

Again, this my best guess as a mechanical engineer as to come up with a design to handle a wide range of applications, yet still be somewhat economical. It is my opinion that while Mitsubishi has had financial issues, they have still survived because of their performance orientation and race heritage (and of course a very successful parent company). I doubt they would abandon this philosophy and place their enthusiasts, who include modders and racers, in a position to take their money elsewhere.

 

^Good post.

 

No, Ferrari uses a totally different system for their F1 paddle-shifter (more similar to BMW's SMG).

DSG is currently found in exotics like Volkswagon and Audi

However, a variation of DSG is used in the Bugatti Veyron (1000 horsepower)...

 

Yes, the veyron uses a Ricardo 7-speed dual clutch.
As of right now, the Ricardo and the new SST are bar none the most state of the art and fastest traditional gearboxes available.
When you will be prowling the streets in the new Evo X, know that you are out-shifting any ferrari, F1 or Indy car with their auto single clutch, and quite possibly the Veyron.

 

WoW! that famous car also uses this type of tranny... So do all like super high performance cars use this transmission!!?? If mitsu does it right and the tranny can be change to take the extra power then this will be AwSoMe!!! not only will it hav the latest in AWD and the latest in Looks but also the latest in Tranny!

 

DSG is excellent technology but I still would prefer a traditional manual tranny.

 

^You prefer to be slower?

 

Thats pretty funny.

 

yah DSG has been in the Audi TT for quite some time now, but it took m3 owners 80-100k to realize the problems that come from SMG and the big bucks it is to fix it- straight manual only for me

 

Take it easy V.

At least he didn't bash the DSM. Some people just have a preference for a more "connected" feel. Plus it's probably way cheaper.

 

Those are pretty good reasons to have a manual, I guess.