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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:21 AM
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New tranny info....

New Mitsubishi to get dual-clutch transmission, stability control
Dale Jewett
Automotive News Europe
July 10, 2007



The next generation of the high-performance Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution sedan will have a dual-clutch automated manual transmission and an all-wheel-drive chassis upgraded with stability control.

The new sedan, the tenth generation in the Evolution series, will go on sale this autumn, Mitsubishi Motors said today.

The new Lancer Evolution's form follows the Concept-X vehicle shown at the Tokyo auto show in 2005 and the Prototype-X that debuted at the Detroit auto show in January.

Quick shifts

The new car will be equipped with a six-speed transmission that Mitsubishi calls Twin Clutch SST. In the transmission, the odd-numbered gears are fixed to one input shaft, and the even-numbers gears are fixed to a second shaft. Electronics activate the clutches for gear shifts, either automatically or at the driver’s command.

The advantage of the dual-clutch transmission is the better fuel economy of a traditional manual transmission without the need for the driver to step on a clutch pedal.

The Mitsubishi transmission works similarly to other dual-clutch transmissions, such as the Direct Shift Gearbox transmission used by Volkswagen. BorgWarner supplies the VW unit. BWM is also using automated manual transmission technology, and Ford Motor is working on a similar technology.

The Mitsubishi transmission will be equipped with three shift modes -- normal, sport and s-sport. The sport and s-sport modes hold each gear longer for higher engine rpms, and also change gears faster.

Mitsubishi did not name the supplier of the transmission.

Sure-footed chassis

The all-wheel-drive system of the current Lancer Evolution uses anti-lock brakes, an active center differential and a yaw control for high performance. For the next generation, Mitsubishi will introduce stability control.

The stability control uses sensors in the steering wheel and the wheels to compare the driver’s intended path with the car’s actual path. If the car is headed for an understeer or oversteer condition, the system applies brake pressure at one or two wheels to correct the car’s path.

Mitsubishi will market the system as Super All Wheel Control.

You may e-mail Dale Jewett at djewett@crain.com
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:24 AM
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hmmm interesting where did you find this info. Post link maybe?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/p...etail1657.html

The first one came from my dealer autonews and this new from mitsu. I'm registerd as a freelance reporter
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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as much as i like automatics for daily driving... im happy to get in the evo and drive stick cause its fun even when im not racing....

unfortunetly mitsu isn't like walmart, so i cant exchange it within 30 days lol
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 09:41 AM
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Go on sale this Fall? In the US?
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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heres is another one.

http://autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...0001/1530/FREE
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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http://media.mitsubishi-motors.com/p...etail1657.html
Now that is an interesting read.. The descriptions of the 3 shift modes make me think that they are for Automatic mode (D). Which would mean there's probably no input at all when in manual mode (+/-). Which is good news if true. That would mean that when in manual mode the transmission will shift as fast as possible at all times.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Daveyd
Go on sale this Fall? In the US?
Article is from automotive news...EUROPE
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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Free lance huh? pretty kool, thanks for the link
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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Well, I guess it will be eventually here and I will be that much more in the poor house
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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I foresee tons of trouble w/ the new tranny.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by seoulbrotha
I foresee tons of trouble w/ the new tranny.
I agree. The more crap you add the more crap there is to break or go wrong. Still can't wait to have a drive though!
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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I foresee tons of trouble w/ the new tranny.
Maybe, but I don't think there have been many problems with VW's DSG which is very similar and F1 and sequential gearboxes have been used for years with few problems and that is, I believe, the technology Mitsu based the new tranny on.

There are actually less parts than standard automatics because you aren't dealing with a torque converter - just your standard clutch (x2) with a different arrangement.

Time will tell.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:21 PM
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Automagical...

From what I understand...which isn't always alot...but...the tech is the same as the VW...and that my fellow EVO lovers is good as that GTI is one fun car...with the fastest shifting tranny and a lauch mode!!! I am counting the ways I will sell my sole to be in a nice MR level EVO X...perfect 10. [LOADED!!!]

(UNFORTUNately...The drawback::usually less control when there's electronics involved =(

Hope there's a TRUE manual mode shift in that automagic X!

I think BMW, Porche, VW and the likes are in for a shock...maybe not...time will tell. (If so, I sure feel sorry for those poor bast_rd dealers that keep driving EVO IX prices up and no 0% so the true poor drivers like me can't have some o dat almost perfect EVO)
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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I was look on the VW GTI forum to check out how much abuse the DSG can handle, if EVO X uses the same GTI DSG, then it could only hold about 320 whp which is a lot for the GTI, but very little for the X. I will be happy if the DSG in the evo x can handle 500 or les WHP.
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