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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:21 PM
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If you use it as a plain out daily driver would you REALLY feel that small difference? Probably not. You might eve appreciate all the fetures on the inside if thats what you use it for.
+1 werds

It is a bit disappointed IF the production EVO will be running slower than the 8/9. HOWEVER, I think its a fair trade off for the extra comfort, handling and better looks(subjective).
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:41 PM
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a fat pig slower evoX thats a shame!! when I sell my VIII bye Mitsu!!!
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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what a bunch of tards (mitsu) this car is built for rally racing! who the F--- is rally racing. wtf!! a 13.f------8 1/4 mile. bye!! a forced inducted car? hahahahha bye!
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:52 PM
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vette, camaro, mustang, 350z ect. ALL GOT FASTER. not slower!
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:55 PM
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This really let us down. My prediction is that the Evo 8 and Evo 9 will hold theiur value very very well. The Evo 8 and Evo 9 will epitomize what the 1G and 2G dsm represented when compared to the 3rd gen Eclipse and 4th gen Eclipses(uglier and slower).

Not to sound like a dik but now I don't have doubts that the Evo 9 sales will boost up again and that the 135i(Twin turbo) will rob massive sales on the EvoX.

I don't know what kind of meth-crack the Mitsubishi engineers were smoking but they completely diverted the path of performance progresion on the Evo X. I don't know of any single person on this forum, on this world that wasn't expecting a Evo X in the 320hp and a high 12sec car with traps in the 105-108mph(at least) with an agile and lightweight chasi, intead what do we get? a heavier car, with a slight power increase.

I still need more elaboration on the turbo and engine because I don't know the turbo capabilities, perhaps it has a even bigger turbo unit than the Evo 9 but we can only guess at this point.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by APEX1
vette, camaro, mustang, 350z ect. ALL GOT FASTER. not slower!
Which one of them pulls .96 G's?

Which one can you drive in the snow?

Which one can you put REAL people in the back of?

Evo is not the best car in the world, people need to realize that EVERY car is comprimised in some way.

The evo however is definately one hell of an all-rounder on a budget. No where else can you get the braking, handling, acceleration or practicality in such a well balanced affordable package.

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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:11 PM
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Some of the people who are attacking the new Evo really need to get a reality check. The Evo was NEVER intended to be a drag racing machine. It is an AWD tarmac and dirt rallye car. That is the intent of ALL Evos. That is why most of those who drag race them break them so often. First to go is the clutch. Then you strength the clutch and you break the TC. Then you strengthen the TC, only to break the tranny.

If you want to drag race, then get a RWD American muscle car and you can beat the crap out of it and it will not break.

This car is 1 second faster around the track. And that was done in normal auto mode. In S-Sport mode the time would have been even higher than one second. 1 second in road racing is an eternity. On an auto-x course this car is going to kill the Evo IX. On a technical track, it is a no contest.

The hp and torque numbers are also based on the new SAE measurement. Those of the Evo IX are based on the old SAE measurement. Using the old SAE meausrement means will yield higher numbers. Moreover, Mitsu has been known to underate the power numbers. They did it on the 05 and 06 Evos. Why should this car be any different?

The car is heavier. It has to be. Almost all newer cars are heavier. New regulations for side air bags, tire monitoring and other safety measures mean that the car will be heavier.

So please quit bemoaning the straight line stuff. This car was not intended for drag racing.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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screw all the haters, i can't wait to get one before snow hits lake tahoe and i'll be driving it to snowboarding all season long.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Some of the people who are attacking the new Evo really need to get a reality check. The Evo was NEVER intended to be a drag racing machine. It is an AWD tarmac and dirt rallye car. That is the intent of ALL Evos. That is why most of those who drag race them break them so often. First to go is the clutch. Then you strength the clutch and you break the TC. Then you strengthen the TC, only to break the tranny.

If you want to drag race, then get a RWD American muscle car and you can beat the crap out of it and it will not break.

This car is 1 second faster around the track. And that was done in normal auto mode. In S-Sport mode the time would have been even higher than one second. 1 second in road racing is an eternity. On an auto-x course this car is going to kill the Evo IX. On a technical track, it is a no contest.

The hp and torque numbers are also based on the new SAE measurement. Those of the Evo IX are based on the old SAE measurement. Using the old SAE meausrement means will yield higher numbers. Moreover, Mitsu has been known to underate the power numbers. They did it on the 05 and 06 Evos. Why should this car be any different?

The car is heavier. It has to be. Almost all newer cars are heavier. New regulations for side air bags, tire monitoring and other safety measures mean that the car will be heavier.

So please quit bemoaning the straight line stuff. This car was not intended for drag racing.
Excellent post! Should be stickied.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
If you want to drag race, then get a RWD American muscle car and you can beat the crap out of it and it will not break.

This car is 1 second faster around the track. And that was done in normal auto mode. In S-Sport mode the time would have been even higher than one second. 1 second in road racing is an eternity. On an auto-x course this car is going to kill the Evo IX. On a technical track, it is a no contest.
Why are Americans so obsessed with drag? Better yet why do the same people bash the SST and prefer manual. I can't think of anything more hypocritical, or dumb.

As nj1266 says, 1-2 seconds off a 1 minute track is an unbelievable accomplishment. Tuners spend thousands trying to shave even one tenth off. Mitsu spent 4 years and millions of R&D to shave those 2 seconds for us. I got nothing but gratitude for the engineers.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Some of the people who are attacking the new Evo really need to get a reality check. The Evo was NEVER intended to be a drag racing machine. It is an AWD tarmac and dirt rallye car. That is the intent of ALL Evos. That is why most of those who drag race them break them so often. First to go is the clutch. Then you strength the clutch and you break the TC. Then you strengthen the TC, only to break the tranny.

If you want to drag race, then get a RWD American muscle car and you can beat the crap out of it and it will not break.

This car is 1 second faster around the track. And that was done in normal auto mode. In S-Sport mode the time would have been even higher than one second. 1 second in road racing is an eternity. On an auto-x course this car is going to kill the Evo IX. On a technical track, it is a no contest.

The hp and torque numbers are also based on the new SAE measurement. Those of the Evo IX are based on the old SAE measurement. Using the old SAE meausrement means will yield higher numbers. Moreover, Mitsu has been known to underate the power numbers. They did it on the 05 and 06 Evos. Why should this car be any different?

The car is heavier. It has to be. Almost all newer cars are heavier. New regulations for side air bags, tire monitoring and other safety measures mean that the car will be heavier.

So please quit bemoaning the straight line stuff. This car was not intended for drag racing.
This is the best post so far after the press reviews of the pre-production X.
It convinced me to reconsider.

The hp and toque numbers are the same across the 4 reports we read. It is likely what Mitsu told the press, not what each reporting team measured or accessed. So it is possible the real numbers are higher.

Last edited by nongan; Sep 27, 2007 at 06:11 AM.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 06:51 AM
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who cares if the real power numbeers are higher its still running a 13.8 whether it has 296 bhp or 320 bhp

this car will be a freakin blast to drive solely because the way it handles. and 13.8 is still damn fast for a stock car if you ask me
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 07:10 AM
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Originally Posted by nj1266
Some of the people who are attacking the new Evo really need to get a reality check. The Evo was NEVER intended to be a drag racing machine. It is an AWD tarmac and dirt rallye car. That is the intent of ALL Evos. That is why most of those who drag race them break them so often. First to go is the clutch. Then you strength the clutch and you break the TC. Then you strengthen the TC, only to break the tranny.

If you want to drag race, then get a RWD American muscle car and you can beat the crap out of it and it will not break.

This car is 1 second faster around the track. And that was done in normal auto mode. In S-Sport mode the time would have been even higher than one second. 1 second in road racing is an eternity. On an auto-x course this car is going to kill the Evo IX. On a technical track, it is a no contest.

The hp and torque numbers are also based on the new SAE measurement. Those of the Evo IX are based on the old SAE measurement. Using the old SAE meausrement means will yield higher numbers. Moreover, Mitsu has been known to underate the power numbers. They did it on the 05 and 06 Evos. Why should this car be any different?

The car is heavier. It has to be. Almost all newer cars are heavier. New regulations for side air bags, tire monitoring and other safety measures mean that the car will be heavier.

So please quit bemoaning the straight line stuff. This car was not intended for drag racing.
QFT.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by APEX1
vette, camaro, mustang, 350z ect. ALL GOT FASTER. not slower!
I was hoping the Evo X would be close to my supercharged S2000 in acceleration performance. From these early tests, it seems the X is close in performance to a stock S2000.
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Old Sep 27, 2007 | 09:10 AM
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This will all be settled soon when the stig takes it around the track... and can't beat the IX time.
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