Wait and see...

Oh...BTW, Subaru Canada: All-new 2008 Impreza hits new sales high, and SOA: 2008 Impreza Sets All-time Sept Sales Record

 

Man its like all the new cars that manufacturer's come out with don't really give a **** about the tail end.

 

Subaru has always sold well in Canada, as it's one of the only options for import AWD reliability. They're sold in huge quantities out west here, specifically for being able to have a car with AWD, that can get around great in bad weather (ie. serious amounts of snow), mountain driving, etc. Should be interesting to see how the new STI does against the Evo though. And the RA vs. WRX.

 

im prety sure that its more than 9hp increase for the evo x, remember that the ix was rated at the old SAE hp rating, while the x is rated with the new SAE hp rating....much like how the 05 rsx had 210 hp but was bumped down to 201 due to honda using the new ratings for 06.

as for the sti, they havent released specs yet so no one knows whether it is lighter and more powerful.....i have read that it will have a carryover engine

 

Well, my post never said it was the smartest. My post said it's a smart engine design...especially for AWD. I agree that it's a pain in the **** to work on because of the design, but the inherrent design from an engineering standpoint is quite smart. Don't be so quick to jump on someone's post when you didn't read it clearly. But, since you really want to know why it's a smart design, here you go...

1) Don't forget that Porsche runs the same engine design...for a reason...

2) One smart design idea is that the engine and entire drivetrain are symmetrical. Same exact weight left to right. You could cut the car in half and will have a mirror image on the opposite side. Which helps with balance. Try doing a skid pad exercise in an Evo and than an STI. The STI will pull the same exact numbers whether you go around the skid pad clockwise or counterclockwise because the engine and drivetrain are symmetrical. The Evo will pull more G's going clockwise vs. counterclockwise due to the fact that the engine is transversely mounted. Balance is shifted to one side of the car. Same thing happens on a slalom course.

3) Another smart design idea with the boxer engine is that it's flat and can be placed lower in the car...lowering the center of gravity in the car.

4) Another smart design idea is that the driveshaft comes directly straight out of the motor. With the Evo and just about any other engine design there have to be bends in the driveshaft. Any bend (even the slightest) robs the wheels of power delivery.

*EDIT* adding a 5th point...5) Because the pistons are horizontally opposed, the nearly cancel out vibration of the opposing piston...something a V engine or inline engine can't do because of their design. By cancelling out vibration, the engine is smoother and better at delivering power to the driveshaft.

Now, we all know the engine/drivetrain design aren't the only factors that affect the handling/driving experience that the STI and Evo deliver. Both are different driving experiences. Things like suspension dampening, tires, suspension geometry, etc. But, the shear engineering design of the boxer engine is indeed very smart.

And, I own an Evo IX...I'm not a Subaru fanboy. I can just appreciate a smart design. Hell, we could talk about the rotary motor and how smart that is too...

 

LMFAO. I'm dying.






What has the world come to. "A riced out Spectra" as someone called it....ROFL


......I quit at convincing myself to like these cars -_-

 

^common dude you can't call such an expesive vehicle a spectra.

It is matter of fact child of lexus SUV and Kia spectra and hence a hatch is born.

get this thing out of this country please send it to peru or something

 

I thought the same thing. like you said though im sure its got some power. I think hatch back cars are chick cars. just my 2 cents though. I just cant dig em.

ford already has a AWD focus its rated at 300 HP just not available in the states not yet atleast.

 

It will be funny if that "riced out Spectra" beat the crap out of the new
Evo X...

 

Don't you think that your statement that I have made bold is a little vague? Imean you say that the engine is "Horribly Inefficient" when you say that are you speaking of cycle, thermal, mechanical, or volumetric efficiency? the boxer engine IMHO has pros and cons over the inline engine. as does the V type over inline ect. the pros and cons go both ways. I could sit here and write a book on this subject as im sure alot of people (maby even your self included) with an medium/advanced knowledge of engines can. anyway I believe that you need a bit more to back up your statement that the engine is "horribly Inefficient"

 

I'd take an X over the new STi at this point. Ultimately I'm keeping my IX RS, but if I was in the market I would drive both, but the X seems like the better car to me.

 

I SAW A NONE STI IMPREZE HERE IN ATL LAST WEEK And it looked good surprisingly good too... i did a doubletake... but i think the evo x will be much much hotter.

 

Oh, that is funny since it means it beats the crap out of the old EVO's...

 

^ hahaha

 

its growing on me....