Never said Honda had trouble selling a Fit. Honestly I dont know if they sell alot of them or not. I dont see many on the road in my city. I see more Lancers than a Fit.

But either way I find the Fit and this car both to be ugly. And you don't see Honda trying to make a Honda Fit SI.

I'm not saying there is nothing wrong with this Mirage. I just dont think Mitsu is headed in the right direction by dropping the Evo as we know it and started projects like this.

Make this Mirage for the people who like Fits. And still offer an Evo, Eclipse GSX, or some kind of 3000GT. Just dont completely do away with your routes. Offer us atleast 1.

 

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Nailing down coffins take more than one nail. This would just be another one added to it. I believe changing the Evo to a diesel hybrid is another. So is there sorry warranty coverage. Changing up the Outlander is another nail. That thing is ugly. Offering the Outlander SPort with that slow 2.0 liter coupled with the CVT only is in another nail. Only offering some of the Lancer models in an auto is IMO another nail. Discontinuing the Eclipse is another nail.

I don't believe this car will increase Mitsu's sales. I do not believe the Miev will increase the sales either. Infact, when was the last year Mitsu has had increased sales. Also when everyone is on the same page then there is no discussion.


Yes. The point is leave the performance factor to the performance cars. Dont try to sale practical cars only. Offer an Evo and Fit type cars.

OK. And IMO their repositioning themselves is what will be another nail. I think continuing to offer a car like the EVO does make sense because they can keep to their roots for the enthusiast customer. And appeal to the practical. You dont have to make every car "green"

Well you sell them to people such as us. There are alot of customers, former and future who will interested in 4-cylinder turbo charged AWD cars. A car company does not solely exist selling cars like a 3000gt, eclipse gst, or Evo. But they still should offer someone similar.

Chevy and Ford sales are doing pretty good. Much better than Mitsu. Should they get rid of the Camaro, Corvette, Mustang, or GT500? These companies have also began repositioning themselves to be more "green". They still offer the enthusiast car. They are not making the Mustang into a freaking hybrid.

 

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Did you read it back to yourself and feel you sounded like a d!ck. Especially considering its just a general discussion on a public forum that is nothing but people's personal opinion that we are all entitled to.

 

I tried avoiding a conflict by deleting my post. Clearly, that wasn't enough.

 

It was never cinsidered a conflict to me. Just two people with different opinions. I believe there should be friendly discussion in a public forum. I think if everyone got on the same page, this forum would be very boring. It is possible to have an open discussion without getting so snide or condescending about it. Disagreeing about my opinion about this possible future car isn't going to hurt my feelings.

 

Please don't make me re-quote you again. How would a car that's as attractive to the market as a Fit - your comparison - further devalue Mitsubishi's standing in the USDM?

Why not? Economical cars are selling well across the board and Mitsubishi has nothing to offer in that segment.

I don't understand what this means.

Why should they develop and highlight a performance car as their corporate halo, when their market is leaning into other directions?

...please see the comment above.

Why would any business do this, when the market has faded? There must be an echo in here.

Really? I mean...really? I'm almost at a loss for words. You're comparing a running joke of a 3000GT to American icons like the Mustang and the Corvette? Like on this planet?

How could I have misunderstood you calling me a "d!ck?" That's very friendly and cooperative in a meaningful kinda way.

Firstly, What you're citing is not a matter of opinion. "I like green." That's an opinion. You introduced an easily quantifiable argument, and are now objecting to being called on your logic. If you're looking for a forum where you can say anything you like and no one is allowed to follow up, I don't think this is it. Sorry.

Secondly, you could have very easily shrugged this off, but no. It seems like you felt like teaching me a lesson and here we are.

Thirdly, I tried avoiding a conflict, but you decided to go for it, regardless, while crying foul all the way and preaching a message of civility via profanity. Don't complain.

 

First the X and now this. WTF MITSU!

 

Wow. We got a thick skull on this one

I do not believe the Fit is attractive to the market. You say it is. But IMO you just blow out hot air. I have not seen Honda's sales numbers on the Fit or an other car of theres and been able to compare those sales to other manufactures to be able to say they are attractive to the market. You on the other hand feel you know.

Mitsu's standing in the US market have been devalued on their own throughout the years. This includes their sales, and the value drop of their cars as they age. My comparison is not hurting anything.

Really? You dont consider the Lancer, Outlander Sport, or Galant (to this point) to be economical?

Try harder then

For the same reason why Ford and Chevy have done it. For increased overall sales ofcourse

Sure

The market has faded for Mitsu. Not the others. What has faded is peoples credit, jobs, and money. People still buy the flagship sportscars. People just dont buy Mitsu's in comparisons to the other manufactures.

The only echo is in your thick neanderthal cranium.

I think your cranium gained another inch on this comment. I am comparing a manufactures flagship sports car to another manufactures sport car. I am comparing that keeping these cars has proven to maintain and increase sales for these manufactures.

Your objection on my logic was you saying the Fit has high level of sales so much that Honda increases the price. All I said was the car was ugly and looked like a Fit. Your objection "to my logic" in nothing more than you running hot air out your mouth. Absolutely no evidence to back it up.

Not sure what you are talking about here. You did follow up...remember? You deleted your words after that. Keep your "sorry" to the people who have to deal with you on a regular bases.

 

Notice how I never insulted you personally. I only discussed your comments. Please continue to sing the song of civility. It makes about as much sense as the arguments I skipped.

 

Your insults are equivalent to a young boy holding his finger centimeters away from his younger sister while saying "I'm not touching you". Although indirect, anyone with common sense can pick up on them.

Also quit editing, deleting, and changing your posts already. It makes it difficult to quote and makes it look like you are back tracking on your words.

We are done here. I am not going to entertain you anymore. This discussion is getting no where. Especially since you keep changing your words with all these edits. Its obvious that you must get the last word. Go ahead and reply so you get the last reply and feel better about yourself....and then move on.

 

Competition for cars like the AWD Cooper S I would assume. IMO the car is hideous but every consumer likes the idea of having AWD......definitely don't think it should have an Evolution badge.....

 

this.

 

I read the article again. Seems people are assuming it will be AWD because it will have an Evo badge. But the article didnt mention AWD. And as someone mentioned earlier, the AWD adds weight to your car. Maybe it is though

 

After reading the article this is what I think..

Is it ugly? Yes
Is it AWD? Prolly not
Would it be fun to drive? I would think so

A car that weights LESS than 2000 with around 150 might not seem like much, but it would feel pretty quick. And should get nice gas mileage with a 1.5 3cyl.

And notice, it says this would be a Mirage with an "Evolution Trim". That doesn't mean it would replace the Lancer Evo.. Maybe it would just be a sportier version of this small hatchback compact and then a new Lancer Evolution would come out later.