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Old Mar 24, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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There's a lot of non-sense in this section of the forms. A lot of is because some auto mag or blog heard a rumor and that some how turned in to a fact. Because I work for a dealership, we get regular training from Mitsubishi itself. One of the topics at every one of these trainings is future products. Here are things that I know directly from Mr. Yokozawa, my regional sales rep, my general manager who has a direct line to a lead product designer, and our national trainer.

2014 Model year
This will be the last model year for the 9g Lancer. We have already started to order 2014 Evo's. There will not be any significant changes.

The Mirage has already been announced. It will be a 3 cylinder eco box that gets between 40-50MPG, non-hybrid.

Any rumors about an Evo trim level for the Mirage are still just that, rumors.

2014 calendar year

The Outlander will be redesigned. The touring package will be offered in both SE and GT trim levels. It will be able to get up t 31MPG highway without eco mode on.

2015 Model year
The Lancer will get a redesign. This is where you're going to see it get an optional 6.1'' touch screen, or a 7'' Nav screen.

The Outlander will get a plug in hybrid version. This vehicle is supposed to operate like a Chevy Volt, where its 100% electric until its dead, then switches to gas.

No confirmed time line
Mitsubishi's chairman has officially stated they are interested in returning to rally.

Evo XI will be a hybrid! This was confirmed to me by Mr. Yokozawa himself when he visited my store late last year. However, he would not confirm if it would be gas or diesel.

There is also no confirmed time frame on when this will appear. It may debut in the 2015 model year with the new Lancer. It may be like the 2007-2008 redesigned where the 9g lancer was sold with out an Evo trim in 2007. Who knows?

The Montaro will be making a return to the US. Right now it's still being sold as the Pajero through out other parts of the world. There may also be a truck version of the Pajero, currently known as the L200.

Finally, there are plans in the work for the return of the Galant. This will involve a partnership with Nissan.
Thanks for clearing up some of the rumors out there. Some of the rumors out there are really farfetched. I read an article where this guy claimed a source told him that the new Evo would start coming in a hatchback trim like the WRX so I am glad someone is giving me some info that makes sense.
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Old Mar 25, 2013 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Hippie422
Thanks for clearing up some of the rumors out there. Some of the rumors out there are really farfetched. I read an article where this guy claimed a source told him that the new Evo would start coming in a hatchback trim like the WRX so I am glad someone is giving me some info that makes sense.

honestly im surprised they don't have a hatchback evo...
if the ra comes in hatchback why doesn't the evo..?(even if in just even more limited numbers..?)

i dont remember seeing any newer body style sti in sedan version...but yet the wrx comes in sedan and hatchback...im surprised mitsu doesnt follow this pattern...it would give them more versatility for use as a DD, and i would guess people who buy theese kind of car new ussually have a family and/or would like a bit more cargo room....and sometimes even just would rather have a hatchback's styling instead of a sedan's...
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TrogdorWBL
There's a lot of non-sense in this section of the forms. A lot of is because some auto mag or blog heard a rumor and that some how turned in to a fact. Because I work for a dealership, we get regular training from Mitsubishi itself. One of the topics at every one of these trainings is future products. Here are things that I know directly from Mr. Yokozawa, my regional sales rep, my general manager who has a direct line to a lead product designer, and our national trainer.

2014 Model year
This will be the last model year for the 9g Lancer. We have already started to order 2014 Evo's. There will not be any significant changes.

The Mirage has already been announced. It will be a 3 cylinder eco box that gets between 40-50MPG, non-hybrid.

Any rumors about an Evo trim level for the Mirage are still just that, rumors.

2014 calendar year

The Outlander will be redesigned. The touring package will be offered in both SE and GT trim levels. It will be able to get up t 31MPG highway without eco mode on.

2015 Model year
The Lancer will get a redesign. This is where you're going to see it get an optional 6.1'' touch screen, or a 7'' Nav screen.

The Outlander will get a plug in hybrid version. This vehicle is supposed to operate like a Chevy Volt, where its 100% electric until its dead, then switches to gas.

No confirmed time line
Mitsubishi's chairman has officially stated they are interested in returning to rally.

Evo XI will be a hybrid! This was confirmed to me by Mr. Yokozawa himself when he visited my store late last year. However, he would not confirm if it would be gas or diesel.

There is also no confirmed time frame on when this will appear. It may debut in the 2015 model year with the new Lancer. It may be like the 2007-2008 redesigned where the 9g lancer was sold with out an Evo trim in 2007. Who knows?

The Montaro will be making a return to the US. Right now it's still being sold as the Pajero through out other parts of the world. There may also be a truck version of the Pajero, currently known as the L200.

Finally, there are plans in the work for the return of the Galant. This will involve a partnership with Nissan.
The "Super Height Wagon Minicar"?

http://www.carscoops.com/2013/03/nis...n-minicar.html
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by TrogdorWBL

2014 Model year
This will be the last model year for the 9g Lancer. We have already started to order 2014 Evo's. There will not be any significant changes.


2015 Model year
The Lancer will get a redesign. This is where you're going to see it get an optional 6.1'' touch screen, or a 7'' Nav screen.

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This was very helpful information. If I am reading it correctly current lancer gets a redesign in 2015. Does this include the ralliart? Do we have one more year on the ralliart as we know it?

Thanks
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Old Mar 26, 2013 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by newXralli
This was very helpful information. If I am reading it correctly current lancer gets a redesign in 2015. Does this include the ralliart? Do we have one more year on the ralliart as we know it?

Thanks
No idea. I haven't heard anything about the Ralliart.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by TrogdorWBL
No, we are told roughly how many we can get. If we need more than that amount we can explain why. Like we got 12 Evos this past month. We've sold 6 of them so far. We may allowed to order more than our normal allotment because we sold like 1/2 of the ones we just received. So, Mitsu gives us a rough number of how many cars, but there's some leeway.


Yeah, I've heard some not so great things about that store, TBH. So I don't know what to tell you, other than our store is done ordering 13s at this point.
I guess I have a different take on this. I've ordered vehicles from the factory before, but they've always been German makes. I've always been given a chance to pick and choose exactly what I've wanted, and then all I had to do was sit back and wait for it to be built and delivered. This is why the term "factory order" has gotten me confused when no one knows exactly for sure what the 2014 EVO will have in terms of colors/options or lack there of. I know it's going to be similar, but let's say I want a MR Touring in Phantom black, I don't think anyone can guarantee there will be such a car in 2014. Who knows, maybe they discontinue the phantom black, or get rid of the Touring package because it doesn't sell well. All I know is that there will be a 2014 EVO X, and dealers will have them. It sounds like the dealers themselves don't know exactly what color or options they will get until they get them. Am I wrong here?
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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poor judgment by mitsu, ill be getting a mustang or new STI.. subaru actually gives a **** about selling a good car.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by nekkidlad
honestly im surprised they don't have a hatchback evo...
if the ra comes in hatchback why doesn't the evo..?(even if in just even more limited numbers..?)

i dont remember seeing any newer body style sti in sedan version...but yet the wrx comes in sedan and hatchback...im surprised mitsu doesnt follow this pattern...it would give them more versatility for use as a DD, and i would guess people who buy theese kind of car new ussually have a family and/or would like a bit more cargo room....and sometimes even just would rather have a hatchback's styling instead of a sedan's...
i seriously agree with this man! they could use a 5 door evo as the lancer, such as subaru... i mean come on .. i love evos but mitsu is in its own world.. they wont be in business for another 5 years..
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremy52048
poor judgment by mitsu, ill be getting a mustang or new STI.. subaru actually gives a **** about selling a good car.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Yeah, 5 years of making a car that is prone to ringland failure and not addressing it. That's obviously a company that cares about making a good car.

The Evo X was introduced in 2008. That will make 2014 the 6th model year for the vehicle. That's not unusual for manufacturers who have success with a car to keep it the same for 5-6 years at a time.

****, look at Honda. They've changed that POS Civic ever 2-3 years now for the last 10 year because they don't sell very well anymore.

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 06:48 AM
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Disagree. Making styling and performance enhancements is critical to staying competitive and relevant. Mitsubishi has failed miserably to keep the Evo fresh and give new or repeat customers incentive to buy car. It's rather pretentious and cocky to not make any significant interior or exterior changes in 8 years; its no wonder u hardly see this car on the road. They named the car Evolution, but all its done is remain static close to a decade.

Plenty of room for tweaks and refreshes, new features, weight reduction, performance improvements, etc., that would have made car less dated and a more compelling buy. Mitsubishi acts like their chit don't stink and its that arrogance and indifference that has kept the brand in the crapper in the US.

There is simply no excuse for not improving your product in almost a decade. Period.

****, look at Honda. They've changed that POS Civic ever 2-3 years now for the last 10 year because they don't sell very well anymore.[/QUOTE]
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 08:41 AM
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You fail to realize the constant R&D that would require from the manufacturer. 6 years is a common life cycle for a car. They can't afford to be cycling out significant changes every 2 years. Again, look at the Civic. Honda is getting their asses handed to them in the sub-compact market right now because they have failed to get the styling of the Civic to stick for more than 2-3 years at a time.

You don't see a lot of Evos on the road, for a number of reasons and it has very little to do with the car itself. They're $34,000-$45000 cars. Not exactly cheap, not a lot of people can afford them. Secondly, of the people who can afford them, Evo and STi fill a very specific market. It's a market of people who want a raw, street or track car. The styling of the car lends it self to a younger demographic (<35). The majority of shoppers who have a 35,000 budget just aren't looking for this car. They're typically looking for an entry level luxury car, or pimped out SUV. You're jumping to conclusions that aren't there with that statement. And again, 6 years in a normal life cycle for a car.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 09:11 AM
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Trogdor, I agree that typical lifecycle for a car (regardless of the brand) is about 6 years. Pretty standard in the auto biz. What I think Mitsu missed was the mid-cycle refresh which is also very typical for all auto brands. That usually includes some new features, refreshed front/rear fascias, bump in power, etc. The Evo X did have the SE model that came out in 2010 or 2011, so at least they did the typical special edition version. And, they did bring some new features with the Touring package on the MR and leather/sunroof on the GSR. But, they simply never refreshed the look of the exterior which they could have easily done once or twice during the lifecycle.

All that said, it still didn't stop me from just picking up my second Evo X.

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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by TrogdorWBL
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

Yeah, 5 years of making a car that is prone to ringland failure and not addressing it. That's obviously a company that cares about making a good car.

The Evo X was introduced in 2008. That will make 2014 the 6th model year for the vehicle. That's not unusual for manufacturers who have success with a car to keep it the same for 5-6 years at a time.

****, look at Honda. They've changed that POS Civic ever 2-3 years now for the last 10 year because they don't sell very well anymore.
yeah thats the same thing comparing the evo/sti to a civic? 2 different price ranges, and at least honda paint can last 20 years.

im not saying a entire model change im talking slight changes such as increase in power i mean come on it didnt change at all... and yes a iknow about tunning before you start trolling..

a 5 door evo wouldnt have been a bad idea.
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by jeremy52048
yeah thats the same thing comparing the evo/sti to a civic? 2 different price ranges, and at least honda paint can last 20 years.

im not saying a entire model change im talking slight changes such as increase in power i mean come on it didnt change at all... and yes a iknow about tunning before you start trolling..

a 5 door evo wouldnt have been a bad idea.
Is this guy for real?
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Old Mar 31, 2013 | 06:10 PM
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No one expects a new Evo platform every three years, but a 6-7 years cycle with no significant changes to interior or exterior is plain asinine. People want to see ongoing tweaks and improvements to their platform- gives them incentive to upgrade to latest year. The only changes since 2008 are some trim pieces and console display graphics inside, bigger running boards outside, the rest of the car is virtually the same.

Hey, kudos to those that like a car to remain stagnant for 6-7 years- I'm not one of those people.

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