Is my UTEC strange?
Is my UTEC strange?
I am removing 10 points of fuel by redline to get my car at around 11.2 afr. I have also removed fuel in pretty much every cell. I have looked at some of the maps people post and have yet to see someone remove as much fuel as me. On my meth map I have removed like 15 points and I am still not in the 11's... Is this normal or is my car just odd.
Originally Posted by WarmPepsi
hrm, with my injen intake/fmic, and the pump (3" turboback too), i'm at 11.2 with turboxs's stock map.
not meanin to go too far OT, but how do you like the 280's?
not meanin to go too far OT, but how do you like the 280's?
well, the cams might be aiding that fact, but shouldn't. I'll probably catch ya at a meet, might even have seen ya at the import event day at moroso, who knows, would like to hear/see how they are 
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yes i am tuning my own car. I also have calibrated my wideband twice. When I am cruising the car is at 14.7 (stoich) so If it wasn't calibrated correctly I guess wouldn't be seeing stoich.
When I had an aftermarket intake I had to add tons of fuel while everyone was running rich. All in all, every car is different, and like bjai said, make sure your wideband is sane 
well i guess what matters how good the car is running. no knock and its pulling hard... I am getting over 2100 on the MAF by redline, no knock, and afr is sitting at low 11's. I was getting hesitation in the lower load cells and rpm because I had been so rich. I figured since car had to be so lean up top the same was happening in every cell. I removed fuel everywhere and the car is running so much better.
Originally Posted by Widebandphillip
That's some serious airflow. I'm only pulling 1700 hz.
Check this log out from earlier in the day. I was still running a little rich and less timing than when I went out tonight. I overwrote the log from tonight by mistake
I can't wait till the new release of MPS logger. Code:
RPM PSI MAF TPS Load Knock AFR Inj Timing Mod MAF 3486 7.2 792 41 10 0 12.1 33.1 13.2 776 3572 8.6 950 55 20 0 12 40 10.1 1082 3615 10.4 1054 55 20 0 11.8 49.6 9.9 1136 3720 12.6 1190 71 30 0 10.4 57.3 8.7 1086 3796 14.9 1329 82 40 0 10.4 62.3 7.7 1219 3871 17.3 1436 100 50 0 10.5 65.1 6.8 1543 3949 19.1 1436 100 60 0 10.6 66.8 6.6 1479 4050 20.5 1533 100 70 0 10.6 68.9 7.1 1700 4145 21.3 1524 100 70 0 10.5 69.4 7.5 1388 4230 21.5 1567 100 80 0 10.7 69.6 8.8 1453 4334 21.5 1524 100 80 0 10.7 70.6 8.8 1677 4403 21.5 1607 100 80 0 10.7 71.2 8.9 1700 4528 21.5 1587 100 80 0 10.8 72.5 9.1 1785 4591 21.5 1661 100 90 0 10.6 72.8 10.2 1592 4668 21.3 1689 100 90 0 10.6 74.1 10.5 1602 4796 21.3 1683 100 90 0 10.6 75.2 10.8 1824 4873 21.2 1694 100 90 0 10.7 75.9 11 1748 4990 21 1779 100 100 0 10.7 74.3 12.4 1736 5050 20.8 1779 100 100 0 10.7 75.2 12.7 1824 5128 20.7 1785 100 100 0 10.9 77.2 12.9 1811 5216 20.5 1792 100 100 0 10.9 77.9 13.2 1811 5316 20.3 1845 100 100 0 10.9 78.3 13.4 1748 5411 20.2 1893 100 100 0 10.9 81 13.7 1798 5482 20.2 1915 100 100 0 10.7 82.3 14 1798 5574 20 1923 100 100 0 10.7 81.6 14.1 1824 5649 19.8 1915 100 100 0 10.7 82.5 14.4 1865 5737 19.6 1960 100 100 0 10.6 82.7 14.6 1824 5807 19.5 1937 100 100 0 10.6 83.7 14.8 1838 5868 19.3 1960 100 100 0 10.6 84.5 14.9 1879 5952 19.1 2000 100 100 0 10.5 84 15.2 1893 6038 19 2000 100 100 0 10.6 85.9 15.4 1865 6116 18.8 2016 100 100 0 10.6 84.8 15.7 1865 6184 18.6 2040 100 100 0 10.6 85.7 15.8 1923 6265 18.5 2057 100 100 0 10.6 86.1 16.1 1811 6337 18.1 2057 100 100 0 10.5 86.3 16.3 1893 6397 18 2083 100 100 0 10.6 84.8 16.5 1893 6459 17.8 2092 100 100 0 10.9 84.6 16.8 1908 6523 17.6 2092 100 100 0 10.9 83.9 16.9 1908 6613 17.5 2083 100 100 0 10.9 83.5 17.1 1824 6666 17.3 2118 100 100 0 10.9 84.6 17.3 1865 6720 17.1 2092 100 100 0 10.9 83.9 17.5 1923 6802 17 2083 100 100 0 10.9 85.3 17.7 1923 6858 16.8 2092 100 100 0 10.9 84.1 17.8 1748 6915 16.6 2092 100 100 0 11 84.9 18 1811 6973 16.5 2100 100 100 0 10.9 83.9 18.1 1923 7002 16.3 2109 100 100 0 10.9 84.3 18.3 1923 7077 16.1 2100 100 100 0 10.9 83.9 18.5 1865
I was tring to get over 20 degress of timing by redline but I get knock. I am still using the stock plugs and ignition. Do you think getting one step colder plugs and the a Bushur coil-on plug with a MSD DIS-2 would help?
What's wrong with the mps logger? the only problem i found was that the ecu timing wasn't appended in the evo log. So i just selected the sti utec option and i got my ecu timing appended. You run a lot more timing than i do in the 5k range. I always get knock around there. Here's a log. As for your timing, i can't really give much advice on that without getting on a dyno. If she doesn't knock, keep going i guess. If i encounter knock, i back off a few tenths of a degree around the area it knocked. Had a lot of trouble keeping the car to travel the same path through the map. It kept travelling to higher load sites each pull.
Rpm Boost Maf Tps Load Knock AFR INJ Timing Fuel Boost Mod Maf
3343 27.4 829 100 10 0 11.5 37.3 8.9 10.3 ECU. 957
3457 27.6 915 100 20 0 11.2 40.4 8.7 10.8 ECU. 788
3627 27.6 978 100 20 0 11.1 47.8 8.5 8 ECU. 1173
3711 27.6 990 100 30 0 10.9 50 8.5 6.5 ECU. 968
3858 27.6 972 100 40 0 10.9 47.1 8.9 3.5 ECU. 1179
4025 27.6 1050 100 40 0 11.2 48.1 9.5 2.9 ECU. 1141
4182 27.6 1103 100 40 0 11.3 52.2 9.8 2.6 ECU. 1162
4262 27.6 1126 100 40 0 11.3 53.1 10 3.6 ECU. 1190
4391 27.6 1170 100 50 0 11.3 54.3 10 4.3 ECU. 1184
4553 27.6 1196 100 50 0 11.1 57.6 10 3.8 ECU. 1219
4681 27.6 1250 100 50 0 10.9 58 10 3.3 ECU. 1231
4866 27.6 1272 100 50 0 11 56.8 10.3 1.9 ECU. 1315
4938 27.4 1302 100 60 0 11.3 60.6 10.9 4.5 ECU. 1373
5081 27.4 1340 100 60 0 11.2 59.4 11 3 ECU. 1358
5224 27.4 1366 100 60 0 11.5 60.2 11 -1.8 ECU. 1344
5359 27.4 1428 100 70 0 11.7 66.9 12 6.5 ECU. 1470
5482 27.6 1483 100 70 0 11.3 70.7 12 8 ECU. 1524
5592 27.6 1515 100 70 0 10.9 72.3 12.4 6.8 ECU. 1592
5787 27.6 1552 100 80 0 11 70.5 13 2 ECU. 1602
5910 27.4 1577 100 80 0 11.5 71.7 13.6 4.1 ECU. 1562
Don't pay attention much to the afr. I'm planning to do another fuel map from scratch.
Rpm Boost Maf Tps Load Knock AFR INJ Timing Fuel Boost Mod Maf
3343 27.4 829 100 10 0 11.5 37.3 8.9 10.3 ECU. 957
3457 27.6 915 100 20 0 11.2 40.4 8.7 10.8 ECU. 788
3627 27.6 978 100 20 0 11.1 47.8 8.5 8 ECU. 1173
3711 27.6 990 100 30 0 10.9 50 8.5 6.5 ECU. 968
3858 27.6 972 100 40 0 10.9 47.1 8.9 3.5 ECU. 1179
4025 27.6 1050 100 40 0 11.2 48.1 9.5 2.9 ECU. 1141
4182 27.6 1103 100 40 0 11.3 52.2 9.8 2.6 ECU. 1162
4262 27.6 1126 100 40 0 11.3 53.1 10 3.6 ECU. 1190
4391 27.6 1170 100 50 0 11.3 54.3 10 4.3 ECU. 1184
4553 27.6 1196 100 50 0 11.1 57.6 10 3.8 ECU. 1219
4681 27.6 1250 100 50 0 10.9 58 10 3.3 ECU. 1231
4866 27.6 1272 100 50 0 11 56.8 10.3 1.9 ECU. 1315
4938 27.4 1302 100 60 0 11.3 60.6 10.9 4.5 ECU. 1373
5081 27.4 1340 100 60 0 11.2 59.4 11 3 ECU. 1358
5224 27.4 1366 100 60 0 11.5 60.2 11 -1.8 ECU. 1344
5359 27.4 1428 100 70 0 11.7 66.9 12 6.5 ECU. 1470
5482 27.6 1483 100 70 0 11.3 70.7 12 8 ECU. 1524
5592 27.6 1515 100 70 0 10.9 72.3 12.4 6.8 ECU. 1592
5787 27.6 1552 100 80 0 11 70.5 13 2 ECU. 1602
5910 27.4 1577 100 80 0 11.5 71.7 13.6 4.1 ECU. 1562
Don't pay attention much to the afr. I'm planning to do another fuel map from scratch.
Last edited by Widebandphillip; Oct 1, 2005 at 02:06 AM.
joey, what gear are you logging in, 3rd?
i only ask because after seeing philip's logs, your load sites are at 100 like instantly. You're at 100 load below 5000, whereas phil hasn't hit 100, and i don't hit it at 7k @ 18 psi.
Whats the reason for that?
i only ask because after seeing philip's logs, your load sites are at 100 like instantly. You're at 100 load below 5000, whereas phil hasn't hit 100, and i don't hit it at 7k @ 18 psi.
Whats the reason for that?