I could not agree more......

 

Just to clarify, there are some very well known tuners and many others on this forum that have argued in the past that the stock MAF is a problem or can't flow enough air to support this whp. In fact, I can only think of one, Shiv/ Vishnu, that has argued otherwise. I think this is the point they are making about proving everyone wrong.

Again, if it were just a matter of bolting on parts, there would be a bunch of people running 10s on just a flash for EM and it simply isn't happening. In fact, some would argue that it still hasn't happened.

 

It is a stroker, of course it is not going to be bolt on parts. At that power level it is no suprise he is knocking on 10's, that is all. Any time you have control of timing and fuel you should be able to make big power of course if the stock MAF allows it, and someone has already proved before the stock maf is good for 500+. I would understand if ECUTEK is like a an afc where you have no direct control of timing, but it is not, It is 100% engine management, just like neptune in the honda world. You need to be a designated tuner with the software or licensed tuner, but is completely controllable thru user interface with complete control of the ecu. BOTTOM LINE ECUTEK IS ENGINE MANAGEMENT, JUST LIKE AEM, JUST LIKE AUTRONIC, JUST LIKE POWER FC, JUST LIKE MOTEC LOL (maybe less features) and the motor is 2.3 stoker with a gt35. I know they will hit 10's, you know they will hit 10's everyone knows this, and I hope they do, it will be another evo to add to the list. I am pretty sure AL, turbotrix, AMS or any other tuner can do that with ecutek on a 2.3 stroker with a GT35, so once again its expected. Maybe the originator wrongly worded it so it seemed like a call out to everyone, but once again good luck I know you will hit 10's

 

Sorry for being narrowminded, I know they just want to make a shop accomplishment on flash and stock maf. I have a friend that is a couple friends that are very reputable in houston tuners, and I just feel that any good tuner will say "hmm I have a customers car here, he has a stroker with a gt35 and he wants to run 28psi on race gas. He does not want to run anything but stock maf. I seen someone on EVOM make 540+ with stock maf(Smogrunner). I am sure I can also with ECUTEK since I have total control of the engine and the stock maf has already been proven for 540+" 540+ on a stroker should yield my customer in low 11's high 10's if he can drive decently. I shall expect no less of his car." Unless the tuner says hey *** dont be cheap buy AEM lol you bought all this shyt already

 

Good luck Precision Dyno! I was hoping to be the first to run 10s with the OEM ecu intact, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if you pull it off this weekend. I look forward to your results.

Dang, these boards are rough. Let's keep it positive. It's not like PDT is trying to sell snake oil. They are just guys like us that want to go fast.

 

Good luck Smoggie, you should try to do it this weekend. You gotta love how certain people make it sound so easy and yet it has probably never been done, even with the $1000 offer from Al for his first customer to run 10s. So, anyone/ everyone could do it, yet noone has, hmmm.

 

Couldn't have agreed more......

I just want to let everyone know that tuning these cars for power, drivability and reliability is not an easy task. The EVO 9 and MIVEC is all new to us and as well as the whole ECU program, wiring harness, etc. The EVO9 has nothing to with EVO 8's when it comes to wiring and programming. So if you want to compare EVO8 tuned cars against the EVO 9 for programing then you are in for a big surprise. MIVEC adds another degree of tuning difficulty to the mix. It would be a whole lot easier to just scrap the stock ECU and go with a much simplier EMS setup or even put in a NON MIVEC head and go backwards. There are other EMS systems coming down the grape vine but they are still too new, too expensive to adapt or still on the drawing board. Any way are talking ECUTEK here anyway and that is as close to stock as you will get as well as the best bang for the buck.

PDT's R&D helps the EVO community as a whole. PDT has invested a lot of time, money and R&D to see how far a stock 9 EMS setup can go. In such a short time they have even surprised even themselves at what is being left on the table and what is possible on ECUTEK. A big turbo, stroker, makes that goal even more difficult because of the massive airflow going through the stock MAF so you shouldn't give them a hard time for not breaking records off the bat.

It is in everyones best interest to learn from this ECUTEK thread. Very few tuners in general have pushed the stock MAF EVO9 setup as far as PDT. I am glad AL put up the $1000 prize to go 10's and someone won it on ECUTEK. But that was on an EVO8. If we don't have tuners stepping to the plate to see what is possible then we would still be in the dark ages or there will be companies that just push for only one type of EMS system. Competition is good for progress and the customer is the winner in the end.

If you haters don't like ECUTEK or have some personal beef with PDT then please PM them and leave us out of it. This is a TECH thread and not "MY SPACE". If you just have to still say something non-constructive anyway then you are just one of the folks who have read this and still don't get it! Lets look forward and not backwards please.

When you are trying to go into territory that has never been tried before there will be some letdowns in the beginning but that is what R&D is about.
What usually ends up happening is that people usually adapt ideas from other tuners anyway so the real power/merit is in who programs these cars and not really on how big your motor or turbo is.

 

I agree heavy mods thats my car at pruven that made 540AWHP and thats a very hight modded car not just a average EVO IX with exhaust.

 

700AWHP on C-16 ? Maybe ? ...

 

just went and stopped by PDT and the shoped is closed down like gone for good not like gone for a week or too like there were "kicked out" whats up with that???

 

I think you can put a fork in 'em. they're done. Website is gone etc.

 

Hello devo where have you been

 

Pdt is closed down and im glad that nothing can go wrong anymore

 

where are u located at id like to stop by and see the

"First Evo IX tuned with Ecutek and Fastest IX in the country"

iam from pa soo iam close right around the corner

 

i'd also like, i can get a few people and we can all meet up and see what is going on with PDT, i would really like tuner in our area that knows what they are doing so i don't have to drive all the way out to central/north jersey.