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Old Jul 25, 2006 | 10:20 PM
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your a/f ratios are right on the money
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
I believe that the security was bypassed "hacked" and the code was taken from Ecutek as to the addresses of the ecu parameters.

Rumor has it there will be a lawsuit impending. If a company spends thousands and thousands of dollars developing a programming system and then has their addresses stolen, they have room to be upset.

You can download videos online semi freely, it does not mean that Universal Studios or MGM are ripping people off by making them pay to buy their movies or see it at the theatre. Buying a bootleg DVD off the street of NYC is the near equivalent of what has happened.

The reason the software is free likely is to minimize the financial damages that would be addresses in a lawsuit. If they do not charge $ for the system, then ECUTEK cannot come after them for those financial damages. That is my take on it.
I would tend to agree with you if the software itself was reverse engineered and the address data was extracted and used.. But I haven't seen any indication of that. From a ROM standpoint, the only differences between the stock ROM and their ROM is basically their licence code embedded in there.. THere is no new code, no revised code, no intellectual property.. However there appears that ECUFlash has more defined parameters than what the ECUTek software has (This is second hand knowledge as I have not seen it myself) therefore it would indicate to me that the information found is coming from someone extracting it from the rom, or a source other than ECUTek.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Of course ECUTek is going to grasp at straws and claim ECUflash stole their located addresses. ECUflash effectively destroys any market ECUTek held. It's Poetic justice that those ECU-locking money-grubbers should loose their market.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Theft is theft no matter how you slice it. If ecutek was US based, there would already be lawsuits and shutdowns much like napster.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by TTP Engineering
Theft is theft no matter how you slice it. If ecutek was US based, there would already be lawsuits and shutdowns much like napster.
Yeah I agree.. Though I really do think they would have a hard time proving anything at this point, especially considering there are many more parameters in ECUFlash than other tools at this point.

Besides, reverse engineering the code that they used to get there parameters is probably also against the copyright/intellectual property agreement that Mitsubishi holds also... They really can't cry foul unless its clear that the data was extracted from THEIR SOFTWARE or the data contained in it.. At this point I think that might be hard to prove. Plus the Definitions are a different and seperate effort, the software is a tool, the definitions were contributed by someone else.
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Old Jul 30, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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One thing is that if u pay for the initial EcuTeck flash of $600 than future flashes are usually just dyno time (around $100) at least that is how it is at Topspeed. If you go with someone like Dynoflash it will cost u initially around $375 for the flash plus the dyno time which is usually $50 to $100. After the first Dynoflash tune it is $300 plus the dyno time.


The point I am trying to make is that it depends on how many times u are planning to get tuned.

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