TSI kit still tickin strong
so what happened that you spun a rod bearing... seen the sale going on...
Did you do that when you were pushing it past it's limits or did she just spin on you. Details man... even though it sucks we need details as i'd like to know how far you pushed the kit so others no what not to attempt.
Also can you tell us what you've done to be able to boost so high... emanage? Injectors? Etc...?
Did you do that when you were pushing it past it's limits or did she just spin on you. Details man... even though it sucks we need details as i'd like to know how far you pushed the kit so others no what not to attempt.
Also can you tell us what you've done to be able to boost so high... emanage? Injectors? Etc...?
I'm not a fan of the log style manifold, but I can't talk too much **** because I have one as a spare.
Anyway, I too am curious what supporting mods you're running to be pushing 14-15psi. I'd fear for valvetrain failure.
Anyway, I too am curious what supporting mods you're running to be pushing 14-15psi. I'd fear for valvetrain failure.
Bearing spun due to not replacing old bearings, expensive lesson learned (if your gonna do it do it right), correct me if im wrong but i think road race runs their valve train at as high of boost as that ,havent heard of any mishaps yet. But I guess ill be guinne pig, worst comes to worst i guess ill buy a low milelage head again and slap it on. Long time no talk sup boe hows it going?
As far as boost #s i cant explain the fuel info cause im running a inline pump right into the fuel rail and a 14:1 fmu, I know that its hard to belive that im still running but my car runs daily any where from 10 -14 psi daily and just eats up the boost , you guys will be the first to know if she pops,but stock internals had no problem at 10 psi until i went to 12 before the new internals. So i dont think the ross pistons and rods will have a problem at 14 psi, so far so good. But yes next mods will be piggy back and injectors nothing really else i want to do im happy. And i also have a complete motor sitting in my garage i bought for a spare with everything from manifolds to coilpcks, and injectors, even all the sensors from a 2003 16,000 mile wrecked rental lancer. Paid 300.00 bucks STEAL!
that's weird that you spun on an old bearing... i reused them 4 times and never spun them on stock rods.
RRM has upgraded their valve springs to push the boost... seems about 12-13 psi and valves tend to float.
I've never ran an inline booster pump before... do you still run an upgraded in tank or are you on the stocker. Also, just to be safe... i pushed stock internals to 13 psi and they held... you may have gotten some detonation and popped. If you got it on stockers you'll still get it on built motor as well... it'll just hold up a little longer.
Have you had a chance to get it on the dyno and see your afr's? Or even do a pull with a wideband installed? I found that around 12 psi timing need to be pulled. Even when running 10:1 detonation was occuring. Race gas let me get to about 13.5 psi and after that timing had to be pulled. But that was still running 10:1.
If you got the emanage and pulled some timing you could lean it out to around 11-11.5:1... then you'd see jumps of about 20-30whp/tq!! Just some helpful suggestions.
It would be great if you could dyno so we can see your output and your afr's. The kit is definitely getting proven more thru you than any other... try getting to the dyno so we can have it fully backed. Your ride has progressed a lot and with a little bit more i don't see why you couldn't be one of the fastest lancers out there.
Just remember the old butt dyno doesn't tell you whats going on under the hood as well as egt's, afr's, and timing records do. Hopefully you can get us some info so we can see just how far it can be pushed. I'd say keep it to 10 psi until you can get to a dyno and be sure your running in safe areas.
RRM has upgraded their valve springs to push the boost... seems about 12-13 psi and valves tend to float.
I've never ran an inline booster pump before... do you still run an upgraded in tank or are you on the stocker. Also, just to be safe... i pushed stock internals to 13 psi and they held... you may have gotten some detonation and popped. If you got it on stockers you'll still get it on built motor as well... it'll just hold up a little longer.
Have you had a chance to get it on the dyno and see your afr's? Or even do a pull with a wideband installed? I found that around 12 psi timing need to be pulled. Even when running 10:1 detonation was occuring. Race gas let me get to about 13.5 psi and after that timing had to be pulled. But that was still running 10:1.
If you got the emanage and pulled some timing you could lean it out to around 11-11.5:1... then you'd see jumps of about 20-30whp/tq!! Just some helpful suggestions.
It would be great if you could dyno so we can see your output and your afr's. The kit is definitely getting proven more thru you than any other... try getting to the dyno so we can have it fully backed. Your ride has progressed a lot and with a little bit more i don't see why you couldn't be one of the fastest lancers out there.
Just remember the old butt dyno doesn't tell you whats going on under the hood as well as egt's, afr's, and timing records do. Hopefully you can get us some info so we can see just how far it can be pushed. I'd say keep it to 10 psi until you can get to a dyno and be sure your running in safe areas.
Originally Posted by nextgenerationx
tsi kit is a good kit. its overlooked. i think its better than the rrm turbo kit. and this kit uses a real turbo manifold and etc
to RYan: good to hear, you give people that dont have too much money hope, get on a dyno and show us some numbersd
Originally Posted by lookslikeanevo
thats a pretty ignorant thing to say...
to RYan: good to hear, you give people that dont have too much money hope, get on a dyno and show us some numbersd
to RYan: good to hear, you give people that dont have too much money hope, get on a dyno and show us some numbersd
Without conflicting opinions there wouldn't be much progress anyway. Boe, I kind of figured the valves would start floating over 10psi, but the extra 2lbs gives me a little extra hope for the future. 
When I start coming across money again I think I'm doing suspension then building a head to swap on and retune. Should be fun. I pretty much have complaints with all three kits (just personal gripes of course). With this one it's the O2 sensor placement and log style manifold. I'm still waiting for someone to get the manifold thing right...not that I'm getting another kit or anything.
Originally Posted by Boeturbolancer
Have you had a chance to get it on the dyno and see your afr's? Or even do a pull with a wideband installed? I found that around 12 psi timing need to be pulled. Even when running 10:1 detonation was occuring. Race gas let me get to about 13.5 psi and after that timing had to be pulled. But that was still running 10:1.
but the internals held up to the abuse. Now only if I could regain some motivation, I know I could eclipse Omarboy's numbers..... motivate me peoples.
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Originally Posted by Ryan Bush
And i also have a complete motor sitting in my garage i bought for a spare with everything from manifolds to coilpcks, and injectors, even all the sensors from a 2003 16,000 mile wrecked rental lancer. Paid 300.00 bucks STEAL!
lol i saw that on eBay! nice call!
Originally Posted by HobieKopek
How is it ignorant? It's his opinion.
Without conflicting opinions there wouldn't be much progress anyway. Boe, I kind of figured the valves would start floating over 10psi, but the extra 2lbs gives me a little extra hope for the future. 
When I start coming across money again I think I'm doing suspension then building a head to swap on and retune. Should be fun. I pretty much have complaints with all three kits (just personal gripes of course). With this one it's the O2 sensor placement and log style manifold. I'm still waiting for someone to get the manifold thing right...not that I'm getting another kit or anything.
Without conflicting opinions there wouldn't be much progress anyway. Boe, I kind of figured the valves would start floating over 10psi, but the extra 2lbs gives me a little extra hope for the future. 
When I start coming across money again I think I'm doing suspension then building a head to swap on and retune. Should be fun. I pretty much have complaints with all three kits (just personal gripes of course). With this one it's the O2 sensor placement and log style manifold. I'm still waiting for someone to get the manifold thing right...not that I'm getting another kit or anything.

Originally Posted by lookslikeanevo
because he doesn thave the experience with niether kit, and when comparing both kits, we know what has and will come out on top
So you're saying I couldn't make a comment on the RRM, RPW or TSI kit either? Please.
You don't need hands on experience with the kit to know how it's built, its shortcomings and strengths. The guys at RRM have always treated me well, but all the shilling from their customers on the forums drives me abso****in'lutely nuts. Don't you work for them? Anyway, paint it however you want, but his opinion is just as valid as yours.



