Ok,

The following questions are for the TSI Kit;

I've searched ALL over for this kit (including links mentioned in my previous post), and I just need a couple questions answered that I didn't completely understand:

1) In one post, it says you must lengthen the Downpipe so it clears the oil pan. HOW exactly do I do that?

2) In that same post, it mentions that I need to put another o2 sensor bung in the downpipe for the upstream o2. WHERE do I get one of these, and how is it installed?

3) Larger oil line, where can I get one?

4) How do I prevent the fan from melting? Custom make a shield?

5) I've found that I'll need these tools:

Sockets and wrenches in sizes 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, 17mm and other misc sizes
Socket extensions
8mm hex wrench
3/8 NPT Drill and Tap set
Spark plug socket
Flat head screw driver
Phillips screw driver
Needle nose pliers
Regular pliers
2 Buckets (one for oil drain, one for coolant drain)
JBWeld/JBQuick
Jack, jack stands, lug wrench

Is there anything else that I'll need?


Thank you.

 

buy new slim fans, get the oil line kit from......i forget the website. someone will mention it.

 

1. You must go to a muffler shop and have them cut the flange off and put an extra x inches of metal in so that it will fit. You have to go to a muffler shop unless you are doing the turbo install at meineke.

2. Most muffler shops have O2 Bungs. You can get one off ebay or online. Search the web for O2 bung, it should cost about 3-4 dollars. Its installed by welding. Do this and the downpipe at the same time.

3. Not sure, check the DIY turbo tutorials, there's a sticky at the top and someone has the site to get one in there.

4. Slim fans. 80 dollars... read Maximum17's custom turbo guide or Aznflip I believe.

Finally, there's always things u need that you don't have on install. I've never had anything go completely right.

 

i have my stock fans in there both of them, there is barely anymelting, theres some, but nothing major, just thought i'de add

 

I live in AZ and my TSI kit melted the **** out of my fan all i did was take the header heat wrap **** and wrap the exhaust side of my turbo everything is fine now. Can you tell me your settings on the injection control unit please?

 

im not using the injection control unit

 

this turbo kit is wack imho. why not save for the good stuff or just go fully custom!
on topic, good luck, hope it all turns out well.. and boost conservatively!

 

Well you can think its whack all you'd like. First of all, I don't have over 3,000 to dish out for the RRM kit. Second, I have read all over the forum about people that have this kit, and they've had the same success as people with the RRM kit, and have paid about half the price. If I had the extra money to dish out, I probably would've went RRM, but custom wasn't even an option for me.

 

I've read in some other threads that people were just using extra gaskets to lengthen the downpipe. Doesn't sound like a great idea to me, but if it works that would save you some money since gaskets are way cheaper than custom welding more metal into the pipe.

 

2-3 gaskets will make it clear. Bigger oil line kit? WTF? Who's dumbass idea is that? Don't need it. Only need the rightside AC fan you can leave the one in the way off. If it gets hot (it shouldn't) push the AC button and it forces that fan on. I can't recall the O2 sensor thing sorry about that.

 

1) In one post, it says you must lengthen the Downpipe so it clears the oil pan. HOW exactly do I do that?
You can use gaskets, but they will blow out easily and often. Get a muffler shop to weld in some extra pipe.

2) In that same post, it mentions that I need to put another o2 sensor bung in the downpipe for the upstream o2. WHERE do I get one of these, and how is it installed?
Do this at the muffler shop as well.

3) Larger oil line, where can I get one?
Don't need one, but you can get them at cheapturbolines.com

4) How do I prevent the fan from melting? Custom make a shield?
Wrap the pipes in header wrap, or get an electric fan and replace the stock fan. This is a good idea any ways because then you don't risk damaging the stock fan in the case where you uninstall the kit and sell it.

Sockets and wrenches in sizes 10mm, 12mm, 14mm, 17mm and other misc sizes
Socket extensions
8mm hex wrench
3/8 NPT Drill and Tap set
Spark plug socket
Flat head screw driver
Phillips screw driver
Needle nose pliers
Regular pliers
2 Buckets (one for oil drain, one for coolant drain)
JBWeld/JBQuick
Jack, jack stands, lug wrench
Good to see someone is using my list. You should be good to go with those items.

 

I posted alot of this stuff!!!

Trust me i know what im talking about!! I bought the kit, did a few mods and put it on in two days!!! Its not a tru bolt on but you save a hell of alot of cash.

1) In one post, it says you must lengthen the Downpipe so it clears the oil pan. HOW exactly do I do that?
The downpipe is an L shape pipe that connects from the bottom of the turbo runs under the oil pan and connects the testpipe in the kit. B/C the kit is made for the Mirage the oil pans are different. The notch in the oil pan for the lancer is in a different spot. ""WHATEVER YOU DO DONT REST THE DOWNPIPE AGAINST THE OIL PAN YOU'LL BAKE YOUR OIL!!!" There is about a 2 to 3 inch gap that needs to be filled. If you just put a couple of gaskets (which are only like .25 inch thick at most, if lucky) to fill the gab then it will put the downpipe at a wierd angle which will most like make the downpipe hit the oil pan and throw off the alining of the exhaust.
***(Unless you can weld) Go to an exhaust shop! Have them cut off the flange thats connects to the turbo and get about 2 to 3 inchs of extra pipe welded on. Then reweld the flange on.
***Dont do a ghetto job. Do it right and it will work and look great.

2) In that same post, it mentions that I need to put another o2 sensor bung in the downpipe for the upstream o2. WHERE do I get one of these, and how is it installed?
Must exhaust shop will have a piece that they can weld on the pipe for a O2 sensor. All that piece is, is a spark plug buffer. You can buy them at an auto part store for like $5 for 2. (Caution: If the spark plug buffer has a small hole opening on the bottom then you will have to bore it out but dont hit the threads.) Get the O2 bung welded onto the same location they put the extra pipe and place it on the drive side. Thats the same location it was when the cat was on.
***Just a note, you may through a CEL b/c the kit comes with a testpipe that eliminates the rear cat. The rear O2 sensor will through a code for to much free flow air. Its a code that lets you know your cat is bad. Only the front O2 reads A/F. Either purchase a O2 sim for the rear and leave the rear O2 sensor unplugged or put two spark plug buffers in the hole to restrict some of the flow. (I did the spark plug buffers. There is an article on this forum that has more info about this mod.)

3) Larger oil line, where can I get one?
The oil line that comes in the kit is a small rubber hose that in the shape of an L. It has to go from the bottom of the turbo to the oil pan. The hose in the kit come about 2 inch down from the turbo and then about 3 or 4 inch to the block. It comes no where near the oil pan.
***Go out and purchase some metal braided line.
***Correction: the oil line doesnt really need to be larger. It needs to be longer so it can reach from turbo to oil pan.


4) How do I prevent the fan from melting? Custom make a shield?
There are a couple things you can do. My first suggestion to anyone is to have the manifold, turbo to downpipe tube, and (maybe downpipe) all ceramic coated. This will reduce the amount of heat the pipes give off. I have some pics posted on other threads about the TSI kit that show the coating. It kind off looks like chrome!! Its not super expensive but does cost some money. Maybe 100 to 200 dollars at most. Its worth it to spend the extra money instead of melting all the stuff under the hood. You can also remove your fans and purchase slim fans or fans that mount on the other side of the radiator. You will probably get some melting on the stock fans if you leave them in and dont run a shield in front of them b/c of how how close the turbo is to them.
***What i did is ceramic coat, left the stock fans in, made a custom heat shield and wrapped the exhaust side of the turbo. At first i just had the ceramic coat w/o a shield and the fan started to melt. After i installed the shield everything was good.
***You can turn on your A/C so the fan starts every so often but thats a pain in the butt and ghetto.

5) I've found that I'll need these tools:
As for all the tools, all i have to say is LOL.

Just do it right!!!!!!!!
If you have any more question just ask.

You know your going to need some more stuff with that kit like BOV, and fuel pump right?