Now we all know that everyone who comes to this forum owns the mitsubishi econo car and it is not very fast. So of coarse we look at the possibilities of how to make them FASTER but how is the real question. The options for speed are limited when it comes to our cars, that being turbo or engine swap. Now most of the fast lancers have chosen to go with a turbo set which is fine but can cost a lot of $$$$$. For example, rmr has a kit that adds around 70-80 horse power and cost around 4,000-5,000 with shipping and install. Then you have to put some strength in the axel, tranny, chassis,lsd, engine, etc.(don't forget the gauges). However if you drop a turbo in a civic, you can add 130-175 and call it a day with no problems. In my opinion, the horse power is in no way worth the money and I think RmR's turbo kit is SERVERLY OVER PRICED. Now of coarse you can custom build which is cool if you know what your doing and tuning can be a real ***** but cost 3 times less then the prepackaged turbo kits. Or if you are really craving speed then just use that four grand to buy a motorcycle and smoke vipers all day.
Now moving on to engine swaps, which is an ever growing fad these days as you have seen with nissan and honda. Most people say that a swap isn't worth the money but I think you should seriously reconsider that opinion. Sure one guy from canada swapped an evo 8 engine into a lancer and it cost around 10,000. Again though, the evo eight engine is still "new" and of coarse gonna cost you(especially in canada). So then that leaves you with RPW's list which is mainly all jdm engines. Sure they give you a list of what is good but you have to ask yourself, "wtf do these guys know, their in another country". Which is the million dollar question, their is a difference in our cars and theirs and some research on the net has lead to believe that their swaps will only work where they live. If you did one of their swaps here then you would be giving up things like power steering, ac, etc, and I really don't think its worth it. They also state that the 4g63 swap in lancer is to hard and not worth the time or money. However, in the April 2006 issue of Super Street; they say and I quote " The 4g63 is stout setup and is ordinarly swapped into lancers with the outline of front wheel drive and All wheel drive". Now to be honest, I am gonna believe these guys over rpw mainly because they deal with AMERICAN CARS. My research has lead to believe that a swap from a galant, talon, eclipse, or diamontee may not be such a bad idea and I am going to test this theory. Seeing is how the turbo set up for our cars is a bit dissapointing, I am going to swap a 4g63 motor and tranny(THEIR CHEAP) in to my 04 oz. The point being that turbos are fine and all but you should seriously look at a swap, their both gonna cost money regardless but I am thinking a swap would fix that craving for speed that we all have.

this was based on a letter from intercrew, the just asked to put out their and report to them about the feedback.

 

ok...whats your point or question?...what are you trying to say?

 

ok, first of all, its RRM (Road Race Motorsports), last time i checked RMR (Rhys Millen Racing) doesn't make a turbo kit for the lancer.

good luck with the swap, i'll spend less money and time making power with a stock internal 4g94

and to say you can drop a turbo kit in any car and "call it a day" is evidence to your inexperience.

and don't compare bikes with cars. that's silly.

 

Game, point, match!

ROAD/RACE

 

dude some many people from these boards have come with these idea's and they have been shut down. you know why people get rrm turbo? because its good! pretty much people dont get that other stuff because well its not that good. if it was a good idea it WOULD HAVE BEEN DONE ALREADY!

 

No offence to rmr, but I just submitted a letter from my local shop. Could be just hatin on rmr but their gonna do the swap for me pretty cheap. Guess I will keep you guys posted, and again those arn't my opinions; just the shop owners.

 

cool man i hope it all works out.

saying again, rmr does not make lancer parts anymore. its rrm. good luck man.

 

I don't know if their meaning rmr or rrm, it doesn't say. However I am going tomorrow to see if the engine is in good condition, I have my doubts but they said they have done some research. Not exactly sure if I am gonna stick with this, even the slightest doubt or problem and I will probably bail.

 

intercrew is funny. they don't make one truly intelligent claim against the vendors they're talking smack about. i don't read Super Street for s#it besides their cliff notes they call tech articles, if at all. they're the magazine you read because it has pictures. i'd take what RRM says over that mag hands down. i've been to their shop and i've talked to the guys and i like what they do and how they do it. RPW's build quality is great and just cuz they're from across the ocean doesn't mean they don't get the same cars to work on. they fab true custom stuff and do their research extensively. if i really tried to read that letter seriously, i'd honestly end up just laughing anyways.

good luck with the swap. i totally believe it could be done(engine permitting), but if you're looking for an opinon, be ready for the criticism. doing a swap here just to do it doesn't hold much merit. if you give people a purpose that holds up, then no one can really say anything. i already know what swap i'd do and why, but that's another topic.

and also tell intercrew to learn how to properly argue. their claims don't hold up well at all. what they're trying to do is fine, but their letter is a joke.

 

Are you putting 4G63 out of an Eclipse or EVO?

ROAD/RACE

 

Since you asked for feedback:

After reading that, I now have no confidence in Intercrew at all. If I lived in Texas and they were the only shop for 200 miles, I'd drive to the shop 200 miles away. That letter was the ramblings of a know-it-all ***** who actually doesn't know much.

I never boosted my OZ, but I spent a lot of time learning, modding and planning for my Lancer. And I've been on this board for a long time. I consider that letter a bunch of hot air from someone with little Lancer knowledge.

 

The engine is from an eclipse and their were cracks everywhere, they said it was "no biggie" but that worries a lot. Really don't think I am gonna go through with this, plus I don't know if I really want be with out my car for 2 weeks.(they made it sound sooooooooo easy yesterday)

 

turbo it man. a non in kit will run you 3k, and youll have it done in 2-3 days. and will have about 200hp. crank hp that is

 

IF your going to swap then go with the ralliart engine. Regardless of what you decide to swap make sure you have a full car for your donar so you can just take from one car and put in the other (I made it sound simple...its not)

 

or just buy a used kit like i did