alright ive seen a couple of threads in the past but almost all of them said, just go turbo its easier. but i dont want easier i think that a supercharger would help this car out the most considering its huge lack of low end...anything. My actual questions are which rotation would the supercharger need to be? where would i need to mount it to avoid excessive belt wear? i plan on setting up an inter-cooler set up for it as well so i would also like that considered. if anyone has any pictures of the old set up that used to be sold that would be great too. plus any constructive responses about supercharging the lancer thanks.

 

Do a search for RIPPS and you'll get your info. I would say turbo is the best option since it produces the biggest gains in both HP and torque, even at relatively low RPMs.

 

im talking about a custom application. i sort of have an affinity for fabrication but i need some base info. with a turbo you will always have turbo lag and in an engine that has so little power the car would get destroyed off boost. not so with a supercharger. idk if you have seen the top gear where they beat an evo with an opel ,i think it was, not sure on the other car but the point was off boost power is ridiculous. therefore id like a supercharger.

 

You'll have the same essential problem with a supercharger, it's not like a supercharger will be at full boost at 1000 RPM. The point of the Top Gear was to show turbo lag, not off turbo power. Do a little bit of reading on supercharged lancers and you'll see why most of us think turbos are better.

 

i didnt think it was possible to supercharge a lancer. i guess my source of info is off. but ive herd from a few people u cant put a real s/c on my lancer

 

With a T25 or T28 there isnt much lag anyways!! Plus with a supercharger you have to worry about belt slippage!!! Go turbo much more effiecent

 

someone had a supercharged lancer a while back. They had a custom kit built from RIIP. i think they maxed out at around 220hp. Which is pretty decent power.

if you're really detirmined to do it then go for it. Other than that one guy, no one has really went the s/c route.

 

I will take a picture or two of my set-up if that helps. As far as the lag goes, I must say it is nice not having turbo lag, but before 3000 rpms you are really only up to 4 psi anyways (with 11psi at redline). So low end definitely beats an unspooled turbo but it's not kick-in-the-nuts strong.

RIPP's supercharger is on the driver's side, it's connected to the drivetrain by a shaft which turns off of the accessory belt. As someone mentioned before, I continue to have belt slippage issues (which will hopefully be solved soon), but if you are doing a custom setup I would go for a 7-9 ribbed belt (RIPP's basically uses the OEM belt width--the thinnest possible). A wider belt should contain the slippage issue. You also need to be careful about the width of the shaft pulley (the one that pulls the supercharger) because a small one will slip more. PSI is basically determined by the crank pulley and the shaft pulley sizes, so a larger-than-stock crank pulley and a relatively large shaft pulley will also help.

I don't know off of the top of my head the exact model of blower they were using, but if you look on the Vortech website it is the one that they say is ideal for sport compact cars.

If you are going with an intercooler you might think about mounting the blower on the passenger side, as it is right now, there's not much room for the piping to go anywhere but straight into the TB. The meth spray seems to work well with the RIPP set up, but I don't know much about what would happen if you cranked up the boost.

 

It is sooo much harder to put custom SC.. I think even Ripp SC is hard to install when everything was direct bolt on!! GOod Luck

 

Good luck tuning it.

Also, just because Top Gear beat an Evo with an Opel doesn't mean SC is better. It just means that one car is faster than that other car.

 

Why would it be any harder than tuning a turbo?

 

the opel was a 50 horse mini car. the point of the test was to show how long it took the turbo to spool from a dead stop. and it took over 100 yds and it still hadnt fully spooled. i would think tuning would be easier than tuning a turbo because boost is directly proportionate to engine rpms. especially with a standalone or a program like openecu. which i am currently in the process of using.

 

Unless you're planning on bolting on a gigantic turbo, your example is completely irrelevant. Most turbos used on lancers spool up by 3000 or so RPM, which is pretty damn good.

 

anyone can post that video? thanks

 

Do a search for "Top Gear" or "FQ400" and you'll find it.