Have you looked at the Works dyno results? You can knock on their parts, but the dyno showed solid gains from those two items.

Don't always confuse "making a lot of parts" with "winning the competition" - there's a lot of Lancer parts on eBay, but I wouldn't put those on my car.

Yes, I agree that Works makes less Lancer parts than RRM does. But RRM is 90% Lancers (with a little Suzuki and Hyundai thrown in). Works is 80% Evos, 15% Lancers and 5% Subaru/Nissan/etc. Now, those numbers are made up, but you get my point. The folks at Works are pounding away on the Evo X right now, and the stuff they make for the Lancer is going to take longer. RRM is working on Lancer parts pretty much everyday.

This is a serious case of "improper expectations" - if you want a company that's always working on the Lancer, you have to go with RRM. If you want parts from Works, you have to wait for them. That's how it is.

 

I'm just happy for the fact that WORKS, a well respected Evo vendor, is making parts for the 2008 Lancer. I don't see any other Well-respected vendor in the Evo community making parts for the Lancer. It's nice to have a great name back up your performance parts. Anyways, the lancer will receive (if someone makes the kit) a low boost formula turbo-kit since the block isn't as strong as the 4B11T. It's also an open deck block as opposed to the semi-closed deck block of the Evo X. I don't think we'll see many 12 second lancers. What's your opinion Jamie?

 

Lancerlover, speedcorps.com / roadracemotors.com / ptuning.com

Heard of any?

 

^^only RRM^^...checkin out the others now

 

Speed Corps. - they don't make parts, they just sell vendor goods. Also, they've been around for what? 6 months? That doesn't make them well-respected.

Ptuning - same story; they just sell parts. They aren't a company doing R&D for Lancers. They just sell stuff at a discount.

RRM - yeah, they're a respected Lancer tuner.

So your list is only about 1/3 real...

 

Well don't confuse my sarcasm for being angry or disgruntled, but I hope to see more from WORKS soon.

 

You go e-thug.

Ok so to recap, you asked us why parts weren't out, we told you, and you dont like our answer. so now you are insulting people (most of whom you have never met or been around long enough to talk to on the forums (i.e. Me and sheep)) Both of us have some serious experience with the 2008 Lancer (I had the first one in Western Canada, and have been working on it for over a year now) and Sheep had his when I joined the forums.

So lets take your RRM vs. Works example and expand on it a bit. By that logic RRM is the best after market company in the world, where as Edelbrock, HKS, Greddy, MDS, Sparco, APR, Apex-i, Magnaflow, Etc. Etc. are all tied for last place.

My point being, that just because they dont have parts out doesn't mean the company is better/worse than the other.

Personally from experience I like the quality of parts I get from extensive engineering (my Injen intake is sweet and well designed) and am not so happy with RUSHED or poorly designed parts. I have owned some pieces from RRM, as well as many other companies. Just because it is a part you can put on DOES NOT always equate to better performance. I have heard of poorly designed intake manifolds and headers that DROP the cars HP.

All I was trying to say was that unless you work in automotive (it appears you dont) or are an engineer (I am, and it appears you are not as you don't seem to understand the R&D process) maybe you should be listening to some people who have industry experience and are trying to provide you with ACCURATE information to your question.

Edit: and as for your Works vs. RRM thing (which I didnt miss). Not all parts, engineers, vendors, race teams, and lives are created equal. Who knows what kind of life situations, staffing problems, engineering difficulties (I have seen projects go on for months because one engineer couldnt see the answer where another had it in the first 15 minutes) or business models differs between works and rrm (and all the other companies throughout the automotive world). You dont know the situation or the truth behind the all the parts that are coming out. My point being that ignorant comments regarding a PAYING, WELL RESPECTED vendor on the site is not a way to get parts. I have talked with one of the guys at works for over 45 minutes about interesting parts on for our cars, and I even had a good solution for the ECU flash that he said may be better (in regards to the programmers code security), so yes I want Works to have as many parts out for the Lancer as RRM (and different ones so I can eventually have my whole car be aftermarket) but after speaking to them, talking about how they do specific testing, etc. I am VERY confident in ANYTHING that works puts out for our cars. Note: that is assuming all the information I received was correct and they follow similar testing procedures for all their parts

To recap. My original point was, have you talked to Works about what you would like to see? Have you looked into maybe designing one yourself? Have you talked to them about what parts they have currently in development. AFTER you do all that, then your smart *** comment (#3 I think) will not seem so ignorant/arrogant

 

Im just wondering, not really expecing an answer, what most of the employees at RRM and WORKS drive as their personal, daily driver. Guaranteed if even one of them drives a lancer, they are going to put more than 110% into their work.

 

cosworth & BlueGTS - OK, let's just all let it go. We all disagree at times. No harm, no foul.

SmoothdrJay - We don't have any known facts. RRM has talked about daily driving some of the cars they work on, but they're usually loaned from MMC rather than personal vehicles. Works has a lot more employees, most of whom probably have Evos (since that's their bread & butter). I know at least one Works employee owns a 2008, but I have no clue how high/low he is on the "totem pole," as it were.

 

Just came across this thread

....there isn't much of anything that i can say that hasn't been said already.

So far, we have 2 main companies developing parts for the car......the car/engine is relatively new compared to others like the 4g63 with a long history and knowledge.

Just be thankful you actually have companies willing to invest time and money to r&d parts for a car that a majority of the owners didn't buy it to tune it.

Almost alll the 08 lancers i see are owned by mom's/ dad's , used as a family car. I doubt any company will want to invest quite a lot of money on such a small consumer base when they can use that time/money on a car like the evo, sTi, s2000, 350z, etc etc....when a MAJORITY of those consumers buy the cars for tuning or turning into race cars

It's simple logic, and a wise business sense. If every aftermarket company spent alot of money and time on cars like the toyota corolla, lancers, hyundai's.....etc etc on people who really dont care to fix up their cars to the max extent......or , much less even afford aftermarket parts, then they would be out of business.

I'm not bashing, i just dont see any logic at rushing a company into producing a part when the lancer is not their main revenue , just something on the side they do to keep their products diverse.

 

FWIW, I got the Works newsletter today. In the "Under Development" category, "Turbo Kit" is still listed for Lancers. So keep hope alive...

 

yes i was talking to them about it when i picked up my short throw. the only issue is not if its when. i will personally be wating for theirs because i couldnt be any happier with everything ive gotten from works. and remember they have the same as factory coverage. well i dont know about the turbo kit, but hopefully so. i know they are working hard on the FLASH. and im very excited to see the numbers on that one.

 

Yes but you have to remember that works has in their shop a 2008 LANCER world speed challenge race car(in a few pieces) . and thats exactly where we got our short throw shifter from. i agree with you on the fact of the main companies spending more time on evo's s2k's and such but, were theres a market theres someone making stuff for it even small markets. such as whoope cushions, turn quarter plastic jewelry. we have to be patient. i mean they make body kits for honda odysseys but that didnt come out with or close to the release of the car...