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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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coating > rap
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on a serious note, how long does ceramic coating last?
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:15 PM
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Depends on the quality of the coating.

I was told I got a lifetime warranty.
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 06:23 PM
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how long was the turn around time?

do you know where they're located?
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Old Aug 4, 2009 | 08:09 PM
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Well - I know carlos pretty good. Talked to him a few times etc. So I... urged him to hurry up and do my stuff because of the up and comming DSM shootout..

Typical turn around time is you have your part back 5-7 days after he gets it. Your close to him -- he is located in Seguin, TX. So you would most likely be even faster.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 07:40 AM
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OMFG, this thread is just nonsense. The only real point to coat stuff is to not burn up the other things around the turbo and mani (ignition wires, oil/coolent lines etc). Coating parts or going with a $100 turbine cover will be fine. All a big waste imho unless you are pulling air in just off the turbo with a filter on the turbo or have wires that sit way to close (i would sheild them, not the turbo).

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I dont know about the evos. I just know that I went through exhaust gaskets like crazy and here are my welds after header wrap.
^ Is this serious You have a POS OBX header. Blowing gaskets and **** breaking was due to poor quality, not the wrap. A good wrap is a wonderful add on to a quality part. If wrapped properly, they wont cause harm and comparing how subie guys run them like its magic is just retarded. They use WAY more piping and connections and if anyone way going to have issues, it would be them.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by cincy
OMFG, this thread is just nonsense. The only real point to coat stuff is to not burn up the other things around the turbo and mani (ignition wires, oil/coolent lines etc). Coating parts or going with a $100 turbine cover will be fine. All a big waste imho unless you are pulling air in just off the turbo with a filter on the turbo or have wires that sit way to close (i would sheild them, not the turbo).

^ Is this serious You have a POS OBX header. Blowing gaskets and **** breaking was due to poor quality, not the wrap. A good wrap is a wonderful add on to a quality part. If wrapped properly, they wont cause harm and comparing how subie guys run them like its magic is just retarded. They use WAY more piping and connections and if anyone way going to have issues, it would be them.
WORD.

I've been running wrap on my ram horn manifold for about 4 months now and couldn't be happier with the results.

Quality parts FTW!
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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So even though I wasnt running obx gaskets, they still got eaten up. Yes I know its an obx header. The information I got was from several exhaust shops in the area regarding any header. Go ahead and wrap your headers and whatnot. I dont care. Its not my car.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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It should work though.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:46 PM
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Well I will know the results. I have taken readings of underhood temps, and various parts, and at varying lengths after shutting the car down.

We will see how much this "coating" does or does not help.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:48 PM
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If you have to take the parts off to get them coated, might as well spend the time to wrap and seal them too, kill two birds with one stone so to speak. That should make for a really noticeable difference.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 03:56 PM
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Not fond of the rap/seal.

Kinda looks like ****.

The parts getting done area all brand new.

I am getting them coated and cleared. They should perform well just that way.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by imalancerman
So even though I wasnt running obx gaskets, they still got eaten up. Yes I know its an obx header. The information I got was from several exhaust shops in the area regarding any header. Go ahead and wrap your headers and whatnot. I dont care. Its not my car.
If you are blowing gaskets, either A) Your flanges are really far off or B) Your hardware sucks. Im leaning towards B. Keep in mind that exhaust shops also tell people that going bigger diam on a turbo car is a BAD thing

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If you have to take the parts off to get them coated, might as well spend the time to wrap and seal them too, kill two birds with one stone so to speak. That should make for a really noticeable difference.
Doing both is just overkill. Plus just about everyone on here is running a bottom mount turbo with an intake, making needing stuff wrapped/coated not needed.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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I didnt say I was blowing gaskets, I said the high exhaust temps ate them. Completely ate them. Just was giving an opinion. I used high quality gaskets. The only one that really lasted was the original from obx. Maybe my headers suck to you. To me, ive seen the quality of other NA headers, and despite my experience, I would still buy obx for NA. Not for turbo of course though. BTW, the flanges are perfect. One I got rid of the heat wrap and had the header rewelded, voila! Ive had the same gasket on for more than 500 miles! YAY! So maybe wrap works for some people, but my experience was negative. And I would trust several exhaust shops telling me that its bad. Especially since Ive never heard a single one of the three I frequent ever tell me Im wrong about wanting larger diameter piping for a turbo.
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Old Aug 5, 2009 | 10:57 PM
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I use copper gaskets. Everything else melts
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Old Aug 6, 2009 | 12:16 AM
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I have a evo that only sees the track. Wrapping your header makes a tremendous difference in engine bay temps. Put a turbo blanket on as well while you're at it. Before I'd run a 30 or 40 minute session and couldn't put my hand on the hood things would be so hot.

Today I can run three tanks of gas straight at the track, pull off and touch the hood no problems. The difference is tremendous.

The problem of moisture getting in the wrap is a problem and as amby suggested you can wrap the part and then spray a coating over the wrap to seal it which helps a lot but doesn't completely solve the problem.

You can buy "make your own turbo blankets" from any of the race supply shops like pegasus or summit. Same concept as header wrap but its a little more involved. You have to cut the blanket out to size and then kind of sow it with this wire for each side of the turbo.

The thing about high quality parts is that they fit well and are made from quality materials. Its important. You can wrench a manifold on that almost fits and for the most part it'll be ok. Then you heat it up a bunch and cool it and heat it and if theres any undue stress it'll crack.

If its cracking along the welds you should ask yourself why. Did the company that made it machine and clean the points to be welded properly? Did they use the right filler material? Did they use the right type of steel? Correct thickness? Did the welds have good penetration? and on and on and on...
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