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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 01:35 AM
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2002 lancer es mod help

I have a 2002 lancer es and i am thinking about tuning it up a lot this year. When I bought the car it already had a greddy exhaust system and an ingen intake. Siince then the only thing i put on it was a header but then i was limiting myself cause i didnt have a job and wasnt making any money. But now im finally working and making big buck and want to get back into tuning and modifing my lancer. I was looking into a custom turbo kit on sale for 1200$ on http://www.streetbeatcustoms.com/Cus...er-Kit/549014/ it seems legit. I have friends that have these modified sports cars and im having trouble keeping up with them lol. So you know where I'm coming from when i mean i need help.

Any suggestions on what i should get and where to get them? I pretty much have no budget and im willing to do anything as long as it doesnt destroy my engine lol

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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 01:42 AM
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Go Custom!!!! Read my thread in my sig. I have about $2200 in my build and that include ALOT of things your kit doesnt like all the gauges (wideband, EGT, oil press, boost), arp head studs (you will want these when going turbo), walbro fuel pump and 440cc injectors (another must have) and all the tuning software and cable I needed to tune myself plus alot more!!! That kit is basically a base kit like alot out there you still will need the monitoring equip and other supporting mods like the fuel upgrades.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:36 AM
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Go Custom!!!! Read my thread in my sig. I have about $2200 in my build and that include ALOT of things your kit doesnt like all the gauges (wideband, EGT, oil press, boost), arp head studs (you will want these when going turbo), walbro fuel pump and 440cc injectors (another must have) and all the tuning software and cable I needed to tune myself plus alot more!!! That kit is basically a base kit like alot out there you still will need the monitoring equip and other supporting mods like the fuel upgrades.

guages were other things i was looking into and i also looked at the injectors and the walbro fuel pump and it pretty much said they were necessities when having a turbo kit. Do you think i should just get a complete (non custom) $2000+ turbo kit with everything included? to me it sounds like im saving money doing that. Im new to this so i could deffinitely need your help it sounds like you know what your talking about haha
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by westlax21
guages were other things i was looking into and i also looked at the injectors and the walbro fuel pump and it pretty much said they were necessities when having a turbo kit. Do you think i should just get a complete (non custom) $2000+ turbo kit with everything included? to me it sounds like im saving money doing that. Im new to this so i could deffinitely need your help it sounds like you know what your talking about haha
I'm a long islander as well (turbo'd my old 03oz in sayville, now i'm in oyster bay with my 09GTS).

Definately go custom, but dont skimp. You're not gonna save a TON of money, but you'll save plenty. Check out the hundreds of build threads to get an idea of what other people have used. The most common setups are some kind of manifold (rrm sells one for $400) and an evo 16g with an external wastegate. Then go for upgraded injectors (wrx) and a walbro fuel pump. The intercooler/piping will need to be custom but if you are creative and can visualize what you need and how things will go, it can be done pretty easily. Other than that its really just odds and ends like oil lines, replacement fan, etc etc. Gauges however are a MUST with any turbo kit. Minimum you need a boost gauge and a Wideband O2. Recommended is an EGT gauge too. Get everything on the car, and then tune with ECUflash.

Its gonna be somewhere between $1500 and $2k, but much cheaper than any of the other kits out there. The TSI kit can be a good starting point, but you'll need to do a little custom work, and ditch their fuel system and BOV (pieces of junk, and the BOV needs to be recirc'ed anyway). I used the TSI kit as my starting off point (t25bb) and custom fabbed the intercooler stuff and got a vortech FMU and i was running strong at 7psi for a while before my clutch took a dump.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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I'm a long islander as well (turbo'd my old 03oz in sayville, now i'm in oyster bay with my 09GTS).

Definately go custom, but dont skimp. You're not gonna save a TON of money, but you'll save plenty. Check out the hundreds of build threads to get an idea of what other people have used. The most common setups are some kind of manifold (rrm sells one for $400) and an evo 16g with an external wastegate. Then go for upgraded injectors (wrx) and a walbro fuel pump. The intercooler/piping will need to be custom but if you are creative and can visualize what you need and how things will go, it can be done pretty easily. Other than that its really just odds and ends like oil lines, replacement fan, etc etc. Gauges however are a MUST with any turbo kit. Minimum you need a boost gauge and a Wideband O2. Recommended is an EGT gauge too. Get everything on the car, and then tune with ECUflash.

Its gonna be somewhere between $1500 and $2k, but much cheaper than any of the other kits out there. The TSI kit can be a good starting point, but you'll need to do a little custom work, and ditch their fuel system and BOV (pieces of junk, and the BOV needs to be recirc'ed anyway). I used the TSI kit as my starting off point (t25bb) and custom fabbed the intercooler stuff and got a vortech FMU and i was running strong at 7psi for a while before my clutch took a dump.

lol there are alot of people now tuning there lancers I hope there is enough evo 8 parts to go around. Thats awesome how you want toturbo your car but don't go the cheap route!!! I have read that so many times in this site and now its like a religion. Im saving up for my custom turbo kit... wait actually im parting as I go it makes me realize that Im a step closer to modding my car besides saving. "tried to save kept spending the money on dumb sh**" but anyways That kit I saw I was going to do the same thing but don't do it just research on this site, take notes, watch you tube and fast and furious movies lol and you will learn how to turbo your car and know what to expect out of it. Im building a thread called 02 lancer es turbo project I will be starting in may to build it and I will have the complete kit in in late april. So if you do not get your kit by that time then check out my thread I will be posting up a ton of pics. But for now I would look at the thread Yet another thread about Turboing a 03 lancer I learned alot plus I read other threads as well. But research first then spend money!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by westlax21
guages were other things i was looking into and i also looked at the injectors and the walbro fuel pump and it pretty much said they were necessities when having a turbo kit. Do you think i should just get a complete (non custom) $2000+ turbo kit with everything included? to me it sounds like im saving money doing that. Im new to this so i could deffinitely need your help it sounds like you know what your talking about haha
Forgot to mention that my cost also included a full custom 3" exhaust and stage 2 clutch Put it like this, no kit you buy off the shelf no matter the cost will be a bolt on affair the only true way to get a complete bolt on kit would be to go to a shop and have them fab everything up. Any kit will require custom work and like Sicktght311 said going custom wont save you a ton of money but not only will you understand everything so much better so if and when you have a problem down the line you will have enough knowledge to probably fix it yourself, but you will know everything is quality parts and done right. Ya its not the easiest thing to do but its not hard just time consuming and well worth it btw.


IMO no you should not buy an off the shelf kit but if you do get the rrm kit, this seems to be what most people go for that dont go custom and seem to be happy with it, just remember to add the cost of gauges and clutch and fuel pump at least to that total. Most people here are very friendly and willing to help with pretty much any question you could have about your car.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 11:00 PM
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Go Custom!!!! Read my thread in my sig. I have about $2200 in my build and that include ALOT of things your kit doesnt like all the gauges (wideband, EGT, oil press, boost), arp head studs (you will want these when going turbo), walbro fuel pump and 440cc injectors (another must have) and all the tuning software and cable I needed to tune myself plus alot more!!! That kit is basically a base kit like alot out there you still will need the monitoring equip and other supporting mods like the fuel upgrades.
With all these suggestions I have finally made a decision on the custom kit. What im doing is buying that custom kit that came with everything (turbo, pipping, intercooler, etc.) from streetbeatcustoms.com then getting the other stuff you recommended. However I've looked all around and cant find the 440cc injectors. I know that there are people on these forums that are selling it but i dont feel confortable doing that for some reason i rather do it through a manufacturer or something. But are the 440cc madatory or can i also go with injectors over that cc like lets say a 530cc or something?
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by westlax21
With all these suggestions I have finally made a decision on the custom kit. What im doing is buying that custom kit that came with everything (turbo, pipping, intercooler, etc.) from streetbeatcustoms.com then getting the other stuff you recommended. However I've looked all around and cant find the 440cc injectors. I know that there are people on these forums that are selling it but i dont feel confortable doing that for some reason i rather do it through a manufacturer or something. But are the 440cc madatory or can i also go with injectors over that cc like lets say a 530cc or something?
well if you really wanna pay $300 for brand new injectors then go to subaru. but buying parts from members is just as reliable.. just make sure you do your research first. make sure theyre 2002 subaru wrx 440cc injectors.. i bought mine from a guy on a subaru forum called NASIOC.com. they have 30,000 miles and i got them for $60 shipped. i would suggest checking out that site. i posted a wanted ad and got like 10 offers. also you can use larger injectors you will just need to tune them down when you tune your car using EcuFlash or something like that.
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Old Jan 14, 2010 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by westlax21
With all these suggestions I have finally made a decision on the custom kit. What im doing is buying that custom kit that came with everything (turbo, pipping, intercooler, etc.) from streetbeatcustoms.com then getting the other stuff you recommended. However I've looked all around and cant find the 440cc injectors. I know that there are people on these forums that are selling it but i dont feel confortable doing that for some reason i rather do it through a manufacturer or something. But are the 440cc madatory or can i also go with injectors over that cc like lets say a 530cc or something?
you dont need 440's but they are easier. if you check my sig i have a 5th injector setup for sale with upper piping as well and will have for sale my rrm 16g mani/o2 dump/ and turbo for a fraction of the cost new. just gotta swap it with my new one.

josh
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 03:12 AM
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you dont need 440's but they are easier. if you check my sig i have a 5th injector setup for sale with upper piping as well and will have for sale my rrm 16g mani/o2 dump/ and turbo for a fraction of the cost new. just gotta swap it with my new one.

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now i have on it now a header, would i need to take that out and replace it with the 16g mani or can i leave it
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 06:45 AM
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Pretty much. Do you have the rrm header?
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 09:22 AM
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you can run with your stock injectors, but tuning is required as well as an fmu...you will have to stay at low boost as you wont get enough fuel to compensate...the rrm header will have to go unless you wanna go the non-ic setup route. not very popular amongst the turbo scene, but it is an alternate. most importantly, do your homework and research
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Old Jan 15, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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with the 5th injector setup you dont need an fmu because its all controlled by a box that runs off your vacuum abd boost lines
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Originally Posted by JRR
you dont need 440's but they are easier. if you check my sig i have a 5th injector setup for sale with upper piping as well and will have for sale my rrm 16g mani/o2 dump/ and turbo for a fraction of the cost new. just gotta swap it with my new one.

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hey did you sell that mani? looking to buy one how much are you charging? I still might go with chele on his mani but depends on your price
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