I spoke with the owner, Ross, and this guy is very intelligent. I have, and still am, remained impartial to both FI set-ups from them and RRM. I've listened to both parties point of views. The conversation lasted about 30 minutes and went fairly well.

First couple things I asked was how the overall Lancer project was coming. He had responded that there aren't very many Lancer owners seeming interested enough to commit to their product. Because of this, he is concetrating on the Eclipse and Tibouron owners. There is a greater demand for the SDS there. If you go to www.neweclipse.org, you will see what kind of support RIPP has there. Of the cars that they have had a chance to get a hold of, the cars can't stay for R&D because the owner's need them for daily transportation.

The biggest thing is that he wants to promote the Lancer SDS, but the support isnt' there, as in the Eclipse, etc. I see the biast on this board towards a turbo set-up myself. Is a turbo better? Is a supercharger better? To me, they are two different worlds. There are pluses and minuses to BOTH set-ups, and given this factor, I believe the equal amount of attention should be given to RIPP because they haven't proven themselves as failures yet! NO ONE HAS GIVEN THEM A CHANCE.

My call is for people to at least be open to the supercharger system. We could get into discussions all day long about what system is better, but in reality they are fairly close in WHP. One may pull harder, but at what RPM? The list goes on and on. Just give these guys a chance. If they mess up consistently, then they mess up and that's that. There hasn't been any blown motors or anything like that on the Lancer yet with the few kits that are installed. Further more, I know RRM has a video of their Lancer running a 12.98 on their web site, but at the end it shows the car blowing the rods out of the motor while running a pass. THough I don't know the whole story, but the whole fact of the matter is that there are learning curves for everything, and I don't think RIPP should be excluded.

RIPP:
I'm in...just because your kit is new and hasn't been around long. I'm kinda a "new stuff" type of person and has nothing to do with RRM's performance in the past. I think it would be neat to have a supercharged 4-cyl running 13's. Not only is it cheaper, but from what I have read the supercharger is much more reliable than any turbo for long term driveability, and that's what I'm really looking for. A daily driver with on tap power.

 

I would love to get in on a SC. But I'm a poor a$$ person. If I ever come up with the money though I will definatly get one.

 

the rrm kit that "Blew" was stock rods blowing out at about 15 psi of boost.

it was fine at 13 pounds but stock rods went.

but that is a known issue that 12 pounds is the safe level for turbo

I agree, more people should get the supercharger kit. i want to see what it does too.

I am not close minded just already in a turbo so of course i will have a slanted view.

I cant wait to see some other lancers haulin ***.

 

Agreed... the only thing that needs to remain constant is truth.

Sure RIPP hasn't had any failures to date on the lancer... i'd hope not as they only have a handful out there. RRM technically hasn't either... the only ones are people cranking up the boost or not taking care of the system. RIPP has had these problems to... they have had no engine failures caused by their products it was due to people trying to modify past their settings or people not taking care of thier car.

Whether one is faster than the other remains to be seen but the biggest thing is there isn't a posted independant dyno from a customer. That is what a lot of people are waiting for. RIPP shouldn't be so easy to give up on the lancer... that doesn't do well for their commitment. They should be there for customers as that is what keeps them in the green. RIPP needs to sponsor/pay for/or just set up a dyno and track event for a customers car. Then let the results speak for themselves. Then they'd get some more business for sure.

 

They need to sponsor me

 

Do I hear a little friendly challange. I want to go to Englishtown very soon. I am currently running 6 psi on a street tire. No boost cooler. Any takers here in the North east with a non-intercooled rrm kit? 5 speed.

 

Man i hope so as that would be awesome. If not take it to the track anyway and post up... people are dying to see the results. Good luck.

 

This is what exactly RIPP needs to market their product. I truely believe the race will be close. If this is true, the cost to HP ratio is in RIPP's hands...

 

...we need to see this race:

two auto lancers: one with SC and one TC - see who wins
two manual lancers: one with SC and one TC - see who wins

THEN we'd see which one's better...

 

sorry guys, but just wondering how much is the s.c. kit anyways?

 

What we need to see is dyno results. Drag racing is biased to the driver's shifting ability as well. So you wont get accurate results. Unless the same person drove each car with the best of their ability. A dyno would show count for count which one is better.

 

^^ exactly, a 1/4 mile run would be pretty good, to get some times atleast, but a DYNO is usually the best bet for the most acurrate.

 

i have had the first V6 galant RIPP supercharged and let me tell you, it ISNT easy being a beta-tester or cheap. but with RIPP, they are a class act and hooked me up the entire way. Ross is extremely knowledgable, not to mention he is an engineer. His shop is full of great people, including his father. I currently still have my galant, but I now daily drive my evo, so I havent spoken to Ross in over a year. but during the time of my SDS days RIPP was GREAT. Pics of my galant are in the link below.

 

Everyone is going to have their own opinions on the subject so here's mine. the vibe I got from ripp just pushed me away. There are ways of dealing with people and issues and Ripp went about it the wrong way. I saw way too many posts of promises they never kept, they would show a dyno sheet for a day then pull it down, change their numbers around, one week they were doing a group buy 2 months later still nothing was happening... They had their chances but my trust left when they promised too much and never came through with it. I don't do business with people like that.

 

yeah also when you say a product is done, it is done. not done enough to put on someones car then never hear from them again. Like the auto supercharged guy. Havent heard anything outta him in like a month or so, I heard somewhere he blew his engine, is this true?

Anyone?