well, first off, if your getting standard bolt ons then i highly doubt you'll be competively racing on a track, nevertheless in an otherwise stock lancer. second of all, the lancer is more like a gokart, not some high performance machine that you need skills to drive like an evo or other cars like that

finally, we are talking about 2 separate classes of people here: you are in one group that seems to think everyone wants to race competively and unless your turbo charged there is no point in driving a car; and then there are the daily drivers that have a lancer for what it was made for: grocery running and errands, who want to put a little spring in their step, don't race, and just want to have fun modifying and enjoying their vehicle

honestly, we aren't even in the same book here, let alone the same page

 

You're making a lot of (wrong) assumptions here. First of all, I never said that the thread starter would be involved in any kind of "competitive" racing. I don't consider a performance driving school or autocrossing "competitive" by nature. But if you're only racing in stock classes then standard bolt-ons are all you're allowed so yes you can be extremely competitive. No, the Lancer is NOT like a go-kart. By NO means is the Lancer like a go-kart in any way. You need to be skilled to take it to its limits, just because your car is slow doesn't mean it doesn't take skills to go as fast as the car allows you. Anyone who disagrees has obviously never gone "racing".

Yes, I am in the group that wants to race competitively, but this is also where you make the biggest mistake. People who are serious about racing knows exactly what kind of stuff we need to go fast in our class. The last time I put on any kind of "go-fast" mods on my car was when I had no clue what racing was about. I know for a fact that throwing a turbo onto a Lancer ain't gonna do **** for me because that'll bump me way out of my league into a class that's full of seriously fast cars.

Now, if the thread starter is in fact using the car as a grocery getter, then sure, by all means... Throw in the intake, make your car sound faster. Real gain? A grin on your face when you stomp on it. Or put the money toward a driving school. Real gain? The satisfaction you get when you know you just nailed a perfect line coming off the freeway offramp, or how you have just managed to stay calm when you saw that chair in the middle of your lane and you managed to dodge it instead of freaking out, locking up brakes and nailing it head on.

Home boy asked if the intake was "worth it", I told him that it won't give him any real gain. He said cool that's what he needed to hear. If you think it's "worth it" then obviously you wouldn't need my opinion and I am by no means bashing other car enthusiasts doing what they do to their rides. I can at least respect that. Bottom line, is any "intake" worth $165 in my humble opinion? No.

 

I got the SRI from RRM and it was definitely worth it. Sure its not like throw you back in your seat, holding onto the holy **** handles fast but it got some nice gains, which you can definitely notice after like 3500 rpm. I've heard nothing but good things about the Typhoon so I'd say go for it. If you don't like it you can always just sell the intake. You might not even lose any money considering how much they cost normally.

 

what a dumb ****'in argument, but heres my two cents anyways.

Even if you do have the money to throw a turbo on a lancer, your still slow, sorry, but you are, faster then me yes, faster then the majority of the SOHC crowd, but other then that you are still not quite that fast for the amount of work being put into the car.

Secondlly, since when did money managment become such a no brainer on here? Are people on here actually trying to convince me that putting any kind of money twords our cars in a certian way is wasting it? and as for using the money for other things that YOU may seem to be more worth it, well, thats like saying "dont get an intake, get 15 inch subs!" its apples and oranges.

It has become painfully evident that every person who has chosen to put money twords his or her car makes their own choices whether you like it or not, these cars are our works of art, and not everyone wants to paint the same picture, so just let it go.

 

Im with type3, I think that in any car, most simple bolt ons will give no serious gain. I mean obviously your gonna change the intake and exhaust and such. But the real power and speed come from the driver, and tunning of the car. This KandN intake will add what? 4.6 hp? I mean with simple bolt ons I/E/H u can maybe add 20-25 hp if your lucky. To the topic starter, An intake is an intake all of them are pretty much the same, piping, cuplings and a high flow air filter. all i did was take the stock piping, add a highflow filter w/heatshield and its suckin air somewhere on the side of the battery. just make your own and save alot of money.

How many times have you seen drivers who cant drive? all the fuggin time! i love it when guys speed up on a straight away, break to almost a stop then turn. and because of that they think they are so fast, when a good driver would slow down find the best line around the corner and accelerate out of the turn. Im telling you, take a stock lancer to autocross with a good driver and you would be able to beat alot of cars that are "Faster" I beileve on guy on here beat an sti by one second. Now everyone knows the sti is a much more powerful machine, but that just goes to show you how a good driver can take a car and make it beter, manual or auto.

As for the upgrades on the car, once you get past I/E/H you start getting into I.Manifold work, throttlebody, Cam and head work, transmision upgrades, clutch and flywheel, torque converter if your auto, and ofcourse ecu and fuel mods. But id have to say the best mod I have done so far would have to be my tires, I can take corners so much beter now than with those POS stockers. I cant wait to upgrade the rest of the suspension.

Now im bashin everyone with an I/E/H. Thats what I started out with, and I think its a pretty good start. But the more serious mods is where you will get the most power. By the way about adding a turbo, man I wouldnt do that unless I knew I could throw down 260-300 to the wheels...You would get thrown to alot of wolves if you put on a turbo by itself.

And im so sick of people saying our cars our "slow" WTF!?!?!? either one your a bad driver, or two your comparing it to cars way out of its class. I think our cars our one of the best in our class, if not the best. 120hp, 130 tq, compare that to a civic, I mean for most hondas to even be fast they almost have to do an engine swap. I mean cmon people, I spent 9,995 on my lancer, put about 1,500 into it now. so thats around 11,495. I gained maybe around 20-30 hp im being gracious!!(atleast thats what I hope ) . Get what im saying? if you look at the money, our class, and the price of other cars. We arent doing so bad

sorry for the rant... just what im thinkin

 

I don't know about everybody else, but when I turbocharged my car I did not do so with the intent of being the fastest or competing in any capacity with other cars on the road be they V8's or I3's.

My continued advice: Determine an end goal. A track time, a HP number, a feel while driving, a look, whatever. Your goal is your goal. Then spend the time doing research (the key part being "search") into what it will take to meet your goal. Get to the point where you're confident that what you think you need is what you know you'll need. Plan out what it will cost you, and then add on some more money as a precaution. Then start modding. If you can't do it all at once, that's probably better. You don't want to troubleshoot a problem when you have 50 variables, trust me. When you reach your goal hopefully you spent what you expected to or even less. If you needed to use the "just in case" money then it's a good thing you planned for it. Otherwise spend that extra elsewhere and reward yourself for reaching your goal.

Without a clearly defined goal you will have a very hard time reaching a point of satisfaction, and everything will probably feel like a waste to you. Don't let it come to that.

In short: Step back and think before you go ahead and mod.

 

 

make your own, do not buy unless your going for looks.