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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 09:41 AM
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the rpw stage 3 cam is the same price as stage 1 cam....stage three will be really rough idle grind and I don't think you'd want to drive a car with a stage 3 cam in it everyday. Go with either stage 1 or 2.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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Yeah, I was thinking that a Stage 2 is prolly the furthest I'd want to go, with the Stage 3 being too rough. It's not like I'm turning my Lancer into a race-only car.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Several things to remember with qauds.

(A) They are a direct bolt on with no mods needed so the fitting time is very minimal.
(B) Multiple throttle bodies don't run rough with large cams as they tend to smooth out rough idles usually compensated by higer idle speeds. Our newer systems will now be released with idle speed control for air con etc for even more driveability hot and cold.
(C) I would not run less than a stage 2 camshaft with a qaud system and you must run tuned length long pipe length extractors to maximise torque and top end horsepower as qauds naturally want to reve and reve very hard.

There is not that much work involoved with the qadus themselves. The haltech computer has been used before with qauds and works great and we are now also researching some new ways to make it even more responsive and powerful, with possible use of a hot wire MAS sensor to increase programming efficiency.

All in all qauds are a great way to go if you want to remain N/A and with some higher compression at a later stage teh qauds go ballistic. RPW already has 10.5 and 11.5 : 1 pistons for the 4G94 engines in Hyperuetectic piston material.

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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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Does anyone have a document with an explination on the theory and installation of these? I'm trying to see what the benefits are and how it works.
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Old Jan 3, 2003 | 11:07 PM
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For anyone that is interested, will there be a sort of kit we can order to fit our Lancers with a quad throttle body and all the necessary components? Or can you just tell us what we need specifically (what pieces are need for specific cam stages, etc...)?
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 01:37 AM
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I'd say go w/ AEM, because it coems w/ an auto-tune program which will save hours and hours of your hand. But the only thing is you need a very good O2 sensor, such as a Motec Wide-Band 02 sensor which works wonders for your car.

I'm wodnering though, couldn't you use the W-B sensor one time after you are done tuning it, and then put it away, maybe let a friend use it... or is it a perm. sensor for you car?
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Old Jan 4, 2003 | 03:20 AM
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would you really have to change your oil every 500 miles if you had the quads? i would have to change the oil like every other week
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:31 AM
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that would be about every 2 weeks also...lol
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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No you don't have to change the oil every 500km with qauds. You change the oil like any normal servicing schedule.

The qauds come as a complete independant bol ton system Ie complete manifold and linkage kit. There are no "Extras" to buy when purchasing one.

The basics needed with qauds are as per any vehicle mods. If you aer going to massivly increase the air supply to the motor, then you need to do something with that air. That means, cams, exhaust and of course fuel to match the air hence computer.

Qauds work by providing a virtually unlimited air flow to the motor. WHat the motor does with that air and how it uses it is where your horsepower is created. The shorter the runners between the cyl head and the ram tubes the more high rpm power you make for less torque.

Because we utilise the origonal intake manifodl we use very long runners to maximise torque for a slight sacrifice in top end power. But when you are qaudrupling the air induction system anyway on teh car the loss is not noticeable in teh overal scheme of things.


David Thomas
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 08:54 PM
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Originally posted by Mitsiman
Qauds work by providing a virtually unlimited air flow to the motor.

David Thomas
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Umm, do you mean providing a virtually unlimited fuel flow? Cuz if it is air flow, then what is the point of a turbo?
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 09:23 PM
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quads give you a lot of uncompressed air, turbo give you compressed air
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 09:31 PM
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i just remebered another question i had about quads, i might get quads in the future but can't afford them now so i was going to get some upgrades that will go with them now untill i can afford them, right now i'm probably getting rims and tires, but i wanted to get headers and an exhaust system, now i have a aem cai and a muffler, but do i need a specific header for the best gains with a quad tb or would most of the good aftermarket headers work well with them, also i've heard stage 3 cams make rough idles, but work well with quads, will most of the things that go with quads make the car less powerfull or hard to use untill you get the quads?

thanks
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Old Jan 9, 2003 | 09:55 PM
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Originally posted by BurnOutz


Umm, do you mean providing a virtually unlimited fuel flow? Cuz if it is air flow, then what is the point of a turbo?
Huh?
I thought what david thomas said made perfect sense.
fuel injectors=fuel flow
T.B.=air flow
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Old Jan 11, 2003 | 11:59 PM
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I will be ordering quads as soon as new ones are devloped (any ETA Dave?) GOing with 11:5:1 forged pistons stage 3 cams and cam also rpw headers with jet hot coating and a new ecu not yet realeased wich will let you run both quads and turbo at same time i will only use quads but also getting pauter conrods wich are very light weigh and can handle lots of stress.


Dave with setup listed above can I run 100 shot nitrous with hyperuetectic pistons (11:5:1) can I run this with premium gas 93 octane with no problems if so PM me with details
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Old Jan 12, 2003 | 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by evofan@scorp's


Huh?
I thought what david thomas said made perfect sense.
fuel injectors=fuel flow
T.B.=air flow
Actually, he did, but I was just trying to clear some things up.
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