cam gears
Stock shaft will work fine with the Fidanza.
As for your timing - no one can tell you for sure. Depends on your particular car and your particular mods. The only way to know that is to have the car tuned and have them dyno it on different timings to find the best one for your setup.
As for your timing - no one can tell you for sure. Depends on your particular car and your particular mods. The only way to know that is to have the car tuned and have them dyno it on different timings to find the best one for your setup.
Back from the dead- I just installed the eBay mirage cam labelled as "Fidanza" but it says arospeed....
It -looks- the same and I'm hoping it performs the same. Oh yeah- IT FITS so shaddap already
And keep in mind that the little bolts are supposed to be torqued to 15ft/lbs. That's about 45 pounds applied to the end of the 4" allen wrench that I have. Try to get a hex-head driver for your torque wrench so you don't fark it up.
I used a hole saw to saw a 4" hole in my gear cover and now I can change the timing without taking anything apart and the belt is still protected from the wires surrouding the gear.
It -looks- the same and I'm hoping it performs the same. Oh yeah- IT FITS so shaddap already
And keep in mind that the little bolts are supposed to be torqued to 15ft/lbs. That's about 45 pounds applied to the end of the 4" allen wrench that I have. Try to get a hex-head driver for your torque wrench so you don't fark it up.I used a hole saw to saw a 4" hole in my gear cover and now I can change the timing without taking anything apart and the belt is still protected from the wires surrouding the gear.
So did you advance the timing at all alchemist? or did you leave timing at the stock location. I was going to try to adjust timing with the emange but after you mentioned that you didnt have any luck with it i might look into a cam gear.
Originally Posted by Alchemist
Back from the dead- I just installed the eBay mirage cam labelled as "Fidanza" but it says arospeed....
It -looks- the same and I'm hoping it performs the same. Oh yeah- IT FITS so shaddap already
And keep in mind that the little bolts are supposed to be torqued to 15ft/lbs. That's about 45 pounds applied to the end of the 4" allen wrench that I have. Try to get a hex-head driver for your torque wrench so you don't fark it up.
I used a hole saw to saw a 4" hole in my gear cover and now I can change the timing without taking anything apart and the belt is still protected from the wires surrouding the gear.
It -looks- the same and I'm hoping it performs the same. Oh yeah- IT FITS so shaddap already
And keep in mind that the little bolts are supposed to be torqued to 15ft/lbs. That's about 45 pounds applied to the end of the 4" allen wrench that I have. Try to get a hex-head driver for your torque wrench so you don't fark it up.I used a hole saw to saw a 4" hole in my gear cover and now I can change the timing without taking anything apart and the belt is still protected from the wires surrouding the gear.
I know you'll keep us posted on your findings.
WADAD
Always 
Don't waste too much time with the eManage "timing adjusts". I never noticed any change with the eM. My crank is advanced to 12BTDC. Stock is 5-8 BTDC so I'm 4-7 deg advanced. on 89 I was running with EGTs around 780C. I'm doing a test run tonight and I'll see how it runs with the slightly lighter gear. And I mean just slightly lighter.
I'll be filling up with 92 next, so I'll advance a few degrees, get to that 800C mark with about 12.7 AFR and I should be good to go on engine stuff until.... pistons? What's left?
Maybe twin TBs, if I come up with a cool grand
Hell, I don't even know at this point
OT: My next thing is the whiteline anti-lift kit which UPS tried to deliver Friday (damn!!) but they're requiring an in person signature (damn!!!!) so I don't know how this will work out.

Don't waste too much time with the eManage "timing adjusts". I never noticed any change with the eM. My crank is advanced to 12BTDC. Stock is 5-8 BTDC so I'm 4-7 deg advanced. on 89 I was running with EGTs around 780C. I'm doing a test run tonight and I'll see how it runs with the slightly lighter gear. And I mean just slightly lighter.
I'll be filling up with 92 next, so I'll advance a few degrees, get to that 800C mark with about 12.7 AFR and I should be good to go on engine stuff until.... pistons? What's left?
Maybe twin TBs, if I come up with a cool grand
Hell, I don't even know at this point
OT: My next thing is the whiteline anti-lift kit which UPS tried to deliver Friday (damn!!) but they're requiring an in person signature (damn!!!!) so I don't know how this will work out.
You already have the stiffer motor mounts? That's what people have been saying will eliminate the wheel hop. I've got my two sitting here waiting for my clutch to arrive so they can all go in together.
BOT
When you say going for a run to test the cam gear changes you mean to test out the settings? You know I'm keeping close tabs on your TRACK tests.
WADAD
BOT
When you say going for a run to test the cam gear changes you mean to test out the settings? You know I'm keeping close tabs on your TRACK tests.
WADAD
I replaced the front with a DEYEME RACING flex mount. The firm wasn't an option on the website for some reason (weird).
I went for a test drive. The EGTs suring sustained 5K RPM driving went to about 820C so I'm a little hotter than I thought I'd be. Still having issues with the eManage, but I think they're related more to the throttle position reading that the eM took when I did the parameter setting than anything (it has a tendancy to only read up to 99% and then on the road it says "I'll be damned! 100%. Well, I don't know what to do with 100% so I'll just let the ECU take over
)
As for the track, hold your breath. Everything closes up here after the second week in October (and the drag strips reduce the number of test-n-tune days once we get into the last week of August!). So I might be able to get to a strip in March
So, the ON Topic stuff: the cam gear held nicely during a fairly spirited run to the office and back (yes at 11PM on a Sunday- tomorrow's chili cookoff day and we didn't want to take it to work on the bus
). And if during my testing with the 92 octane I find that I'm still warmer than I want to be I can easily change the timing. See, on topic stuff, too 
EDIT: WADAD I see what you were asking above. The motor mounts do help with engine movement and wheel hop. The anti-lift is is designed to keep the front end from lifting under accel (under-loading the tires so they spin) and diving under braking (overloading the tires and brakes making locking and skidding more likely). your suspension can only do so much
A side benefit is that the anti lift kit is also supposed to help cornering by keeping the car level (kind of like an anti-roll bar) and it increases the caster by 1/2 degree.
I went for a test drive. The EGTs suring sustained 5K RPM driving went to about 820C so I'm a little hotter than I thought I'd be. Still having issues with the eManage, but I think they're related more to the throttle position reading that the eM took when I did the parameter setting than anything (it has a tendancy to only read up to 99% and then on the road it says "I'll be damned! 100%. Well, I don't know what to do with 100% so I'll just let the ECU take over
)As for the track, hold your breath. Everything closes up here after the second week in October (and the drag strips reduce the number of test-n-tune days once we get into the last week of August!). So I might be able to get to a strip in March

So, the ON Topic stuff: the cam gear held nicely during a fairly spirited run to the office and back (yes at 11PM on a Sunday- tomorrow's chili cookoff day and we didn't want to take it to work on the bus
). And if during my testing with the 92 octane I find that I'm still warmer than I want to be I can easily change the timing. See, on topic stuff, too 
EDIT: WADAD I see what you were asking above. The motor mounts do help with engine movement and wheel hop. The anti-lift is is designed to keep the front end from lifting under accel (under-loading the tires so they spin) and diving under braking (overloading the tires and brakes making locking and skidding more likely). your suspension can only do so much
A side benefit is that the anti lift kit is also supposed to help cornering by keeping the car level (kind of like an anti-roll bar) and it increases the caster by 1/2 degree.
Last edited by Alchemist; Nov 14, 2005 at 08:36 AM.
First of all, thanks for all the info you guys.
Now, I'm just wondering, when I install new cams + adjustable cam gears will I need to retune the ECU? I would imagine that advancing/retarding is sufficient? I have a pair of cams coming but have not planned on re-tuning my ecu. Do I need to?
Now, I'm just wondering, when I install new cams + adjustable cam gears will I need to retune the ECU? I would imagine that advancing/retarding is sufficient? I have a pair of cams coming but have not planned on re-tuning my ecu. Do I need to?




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