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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Of course if your are just looking at the 1/4 mile, which most of you kids are, you can try this method. http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm Definatly the cheapest way to get a sentra in the 14's, and it can easially be applied to any vehicle.
That's absolutely insane.

I've raced sentras with only a CAI that ran 15.3.s You wouldn't need to do half that to make them run 14.9 but I guess if you want to run that 14.2 then more power to ya.

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 12:05 PM
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Maybe a Spec-V ran a 15.3 I dont think the others are that quick...possible a reg. se-R
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno
Maybe a Spec-V ran a 15.3 I dont think the others are that quick...possible a reg. se-R
ran with my friends 1.8s sentra on the road and he fell way behind...and we all know the 1/4 mile times for a lancer.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 12:31 PM
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i forgot this before....

WHY DOES EVERYBODY DOUBT ME WITH THE QUAD TB!!! I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK!!!

sorry. i had to get that out...if you plan on sticking with an NA setup (as i originally planned) that will yeild a LOT of top end power. unfortunately, it's not cheap. like stated previously, you WILL NEED some sort of fuel management unit...along with a new fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, and rail...i'm not sure abou the injectors though. i haven't investigated that so much yet...the increase in fuel consumption will really tax your stock fuel pump though...the fpr and rail will help you eliminate the flat spots that come stock in a lot of mitsu vehicles...likewise, without it...you will really notice that flat spot on an open throttle. on a high performance motor (if you are building one...being a quad set-up is not for an unexperienced, not serious, type of guy) those "flat spots" could lead to some problems.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by comatose721
i forgot this before....

WHY DOES EVERYBODY DOUBT ME WITH THE QUAD TB!!! I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK!!!
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Personally I don't really see the point in having an NA car thats all top-end power, it kinda defeats the purpose of being NA. If you want great top-end power, just go FI, if you want a nice and linear powerband, go NA. Of course this is just my opinion.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:34 PM
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ITB and TwinTB are cool because they give not only top end but mid range and serious throttle response.
I would buy some twin TBS or even ITBs if tuning it would be easier and cheaper.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
Personally I don't really see the point in having an NA car thats all top-end power, it kinda defeats the purpose of being NA. If you want great top-end power, just go FI, if you want a nice and linear powerband, go NA. Of course this is just my opinion.
IMO if you want a nice linear powerband go SC or pick a small turbo.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:43 PM
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I like my pistons, surprisingly nippy in the low revs.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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Yeah, no doubt NA is a perfectly viable way to go for tuning. My personal preference is simply for FI. NA is very expensive for the Lancer. I'll have to post my list tomorrow. Busy tonight.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Danno
Of course if your are just looking at the 1/4 mile, which most of you kids are, you can try this method. http://crazyjim.ramelot.com/14seconds.htm Definatly the cheapest way to get a sentra in the 14's, and it can easially be applied to any vehicle.

That was funniest thing I've ever seen

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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thnx for all the responses and ideas! u guyz are awesome. one ? is RPW a websit that sells lancer parts? wat is the address?
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:22 PM
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well RPW is based in austrila but if u really want their address its( 50 Gordon Road (East), Osborne Park, Perth, WA, 6017)

but they have US distributers such as vision imports

www.rpw.com.au
www.visionimports.com

and yes rpw does sell alot of products for lancers
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 12:30 AM
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Originally Posted by OzLancerRally
thnx for all the responses and ideas! u guyz are awesome. one ? is RPW a websit that sells lancer parts? wat is the address?
ull find there products to be at the top end of quality and craftmanship for the lancer.
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Old Dec 16, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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Arrow my quick input on ITB's, cams, and high compression

Originally Posted by ambystom01
Personally I don't really see the point in having an NA car thats all top-end power, it kinda defeats the purpose of being NA. If you want great top-end power, just go FI, if you want a nice and linear powerband, go NA. Of course this is just my opinion.
it's not so much the concept of a top ended lancer...it's more about building an NA beast. but i do understand where you are coming from with just turboing it...that is the boat i am in now. my original goal was to get the fastest NA lancer on the boards...now i'm just boosting it and gonna aim for fastest overall...it's a couple years away but i'll get there.

the ITB's would indeed cause a detrimental loss on the low end torque range..however the other gains (IMO) would far outweigh the loss. i am unsure if this setup would work with a turbo (as far as i know it isn't compatible with any KIT but i believe a custom set-up would work)...regardless, this guy wants a NA set-up...back on topic...the high compression pistons seem to be a nice route as well. some have had problems (Greg) initially but others seem to be getting nice benefits..either route you choose some sort of fuel management unit will be necessary in the long run. in my own personal opinion, stay away from camming the car until you get a good understanding of how everything works. not to say this is a bad mod but there tend to be a lot of frustrations, tuning, costs, and overall you need to know what is going on inside your motor when you start playing with the head. this is my own 2 cents right now. i'll write more later but i've got homework to do right now.

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