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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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best na setup

what is the best NA setup for my 2002 lancer oz? i tried looking it up, BUT haven't found exactly wat i been lookin for. thnx every1
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:01 AM
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Headers + Downpipe
Fuel controller
sr or ca intake
ported 4g93 manifold
pulley

Those are the mods that i have done that are not overly expensive and have yielded very nice results. I am waiting for my throttle body from RPW to come in.

But honestly "Best setup" can have a wide range of meanings some clarification would help.

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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Header back (Rpw header, and custom make the rest)
Fuel Pressure Regulator (Rpw and others)
Piggyback or any other fuel/timing controller (Rrm, Aem, Emanage, etc...)
High Comp piston (Rrm has some I think)
Ported Intake Manifold (Rrm, Rpw, Local Machine shop)
Ported Throttle body (Rrm, Rpw, Local Machine shop)
Short Ram intake, or Cold Air intake
Cam (Rpw)
Lighter Flywheel (Rrm)

and many more I forget
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 07:38 AM
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Ultimate NA setup:

11:5.1 high compression pistons (RPW)
Haltech or AEM EMS
Twin 50mm throttle body (RPW)
Exhaust manifold (RPW)
Stage 2 camshaft (RPW)
Cam gear (Fidanze)
Lighter pulley (RRM)
Flywheel (PTuning)
2.25 Exhaust (RRM)
Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM)
Kazz LSD (RRM)

If you think about it, instead of spending all the money on throttle body and intake manifold you could just invest in twin throttle body setup (RPW) and EMS. 64mm Throttle body (RPW) is pretty expensive and + their new manifold = almost as close as EMS and 2x 50mm throttle bodies, except you have to tune EMS and that cost a lot.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by gregivq
Ultimate NA setup:

11:5.1 high compression pistons (RPW)
Haltech or AEM EMS
Twin 50mm throttle body (RPW)
Exhaust manifold (RPW)
Stage 2 camshaft (RPW)
Cam gear (Fidanze)
Lighter pulley (RRM)
Flywheel (PTuning)
2.25 Exhaust (RRM)
Fuel Pressure Regulator (AEM)
Kazz LSD (RRM)

If you think about it, instead of spending all the money on throttle body and intake manifold you could just invest in twin throttle body setup (RPW) and EMS. 64mm Throttle body (RPW) is pretty expensive and + their new manifold = almost as close as EMS and 2x 50mm throttle bodies, except you have to tune EMS and that cost a lot.

now that's what i'm talking about!!! if i didn't plan on boosting i would have done the RPW dual throttle body. if the quad set-up didn't cost an arm and a leg i think i ultimately would have invested in that.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:38 AM
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^except the quad setup would be almost impossible to drive on the street. I already talked to Dave from RPW about all of that and if anything 2x 50mm on the street will do fine but nothing beyond that.
BTW quad almost costs as much as twin 55mm.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:39 AM
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Why would quad be impossible to drive on the street?
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Because of the drastic loss of low end torque only high rpm would get you going.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:45 AM
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I find that hard to believe. I know there are plenty of street driven ITB AE86 Corollas out there.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:53 AM
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Here's my question is there anyway to run the dual throttle body setup, but plumb the intake pipes from both TB's into the MAF? THis way you could do it with out running an EMS?
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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I tried to look it up on the web and ITB AE86 Corollas are fine with individual throttle bodies...................paging Mitsiman.


EDIT:
Found some info on RPW's website:
Whilst we know that our Qaud Throttle Body System is the ultimate goal of naturally aspirated performance, limitations of either programmable computer, loss of low rpm torque etc can be a deterrent for a street driven vehicle.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by impetus19
Here's my question is there anyway to run the dual throttle body setup, but plumb the intake pipes from both TB's into the MAF? THis way you could do it with out running an EMS?
I think RPW was working on that for a long time and still no answer.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Raising CR should help negate the low end torque issue. I wonder if the IAC system still works with ITB's though. If not, it must be a real pain trying to get the car to idle. I've also got no experience with TPS based fuel mapping, but I'm told it is both extremely simple and extremely complicated.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by gregivq
I think RPW was working on that for a long time and still no answer.
That would be a useless Twin Throttle. The Maf will become a restriction.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by blaze_125
That would be a useless Twin Throttle. The Maf will become a restriction.
So how's that any different from turbo MAF restriction? The amount of air going through a turbo setup at 7psi is much higher than this. Besides, if you go with standalone engine management the MAF is effectively useless anyway. You don't need to meter air because you'll probably use TPS based fuel mapping.
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