An exhaust is an exhaust, often the only difference from one manufacturer to another is purely cosmetic, as is the case between the magnaflow and the greddy system. Both use 2.25" piping and both use an open muffler system, the muffler just looks different. That dyno is complete crap, people don't even gain 10 hp with intake, exhaust, header and other intake side mods. You'll be lucky to gain 2 hp with an exhaust on a stock motor let alone 10.

 

so that would be to say magnaflow falsifys there information. rather or not you get a decent gain from an aftermarket really depends on how poorly the stock exhaust is designed. if its extremely restrictive an open exhaust will help greatly. but if you have an 2006 rx-8, its exhaust is tuned for performance from the factory resulting in pathetic gains from other products. i dont exactly buy into that dyno either but the stock lancer exhaust
is designed to be quiet and cost effective, hence its hamper on the cars performance.

 

The problem is this, we don't drive performance cars, we drive economy cars. As such our engines are tuned to be quiet, mild and reliable, not blazingly fast or responsive. Putting on an exhaust is a start, but you can't expect a 10 hp gain when we only have 120 at the crank stock (so 100-110 whp).

 

Call me a sucker for believing a magazine's dyno #s, but it's 103 whp stock on an MT.

 

There we go, I'm guessing that's from Import Tuner when they tested Buschur products?

 

Yuppers. It's like the Bible for "what Lancer mods do what"

 

so what mods should i start with first? Piggy, TB, IM - no clue what that stuff is and turbo!?!?! I'm 17 and I make $7.00 an hour. If I should plan on only seeing a 3 hp gain, then i might as well save me the hassle and money and just get a freekin muffler for 30 bucks lol.

if you guys dont mind just explain a little what the mod is and what it does like piggy v.1 v.2 and others I should get. Thanks

 

Depends on what you want out of the car.

Piggy - best bang for the buck. You'd probably want the V2, as it's just the 2nd version (improved over the first version).

Bored IM and TB only offer about 3hp each. For someone on your budget, that's probably a waste of money, given that they're both very pricey.

Muffler - if you want it, go for it.

 

my lancer > civics
thats all i want :P

 

^If you want your Lancer to be better than Civic then you will have to go turbo. From what I understand the Lancer just doesn't respond to the usual bolt-ons like Civics do. As far as explaining what the mods we mentioned do etc.. you are starting to get into the "use the search function" area, but TB=Throttlebody, there are a number of them available and they are bored out to allow for a larger volume of air intake. IM= Intake manifold, and is ported and polished to also alow for increased volume of air intake. As blacksheep stated these are kind of pricey for little gains. Piggy V1 is the first edition of Road Race brand piggyback ECU. V2 is the second edition maybe slightly more aggressive and has had some issues, but they have been corrected, just maybe not as "plug and play" as V1 as you need an update to fix idle problems. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think V1 is more compatible, or is the only one of the two that works with turbo. Rob at Road Race advised me to just stick with V1 that V2 wasn't a great difference overall. Going all intake mods, such as, CAI,SRI,TB,IM is probably not the best way to go about it, as doing all exhaust mods, such as, Header, high flow cat/test pipe, catback is not good either, but on $7.00/hr you have a tough hill to climb in moding whatever you decied to do. You can bide your time, save your money and just go turbo when you have enough money. You can also nibble at a mod wish list, a little at a time, doing naturaly aspirated mods, but you wont be beating Civics any time soon. Nibbling at a mod wish list can be fun and you obtain your goal mods quicker, you just have to do ALL of them to get any real noticable gains. There is also the suspension mods which some recomend as a priority and they do improve the handling of the car quite nicely, which is rewarding. There is no cut-and-dry way to go about it. It's your car. At $7.00/hr, and if you don't have hundereds to spend, the crank pulley is relatively cheap and everyone loves it, otherwise what you do from here depends on you saving, and doing it piece by piece for some gains, or, saving for a while and going turbo to get big gains. As far as your original post, I would not get the exhaust before I did more intake side mods, after that you can balance things out by getting the header which is really all the exhaust extraction you need initialy for N/A. A muffler will do nothing for performance, spend the same money on the crank pulley and exhaust tip IMO.

Here are some links to get you started: http://roadracemotorsports.com/
and http://www.rpw.com.au/shop/ and http://www.accoladesportparts.com/pr...rch=fromSearch

 

4 words... build your own exhaust...

i suck at modding an engine, but damn can I make the exhaust hummmmmmmm...

you just need the right parts, the right tools, and anything is possible...

don't look for a huge performance gain, just like the other guys said, it'll be more of a cosmetic mod that you can hear...

I'm pretty good at wiring and the electronics of cars too, just wish i was a better mechanic...

 

thanks for that post sdhes, it helped a lot.
but no i don't plan on going turbo because my lancer is an auto (boring for me to drive ) and i want a nicer car (but not quite an evo) later on down the path. if i go turbo i'll be completely tired of my car by the time i save the cash for it. I want to do a full exhaust system just to learn how to properly mod a car for performance, i dont necessarily want to go drag race random civics

just looking into it a Stage 1 Turbo adds 171hp - 192hp or will take a car from 171 to 192 hp?

 

It will take a car to 171 to 192 hp.

 

yeah 171 to 192 in that ball park for a basic turbo up grade.. more than any four is puttin to the ground on the market.

 

I know what your saying. I just want you to know that if you are going to do your exhaust right now, you are not going to be very happy with the way your car pulls throughout all RPM ranges. You will loose significant torque, until you do all the other mods. Thats why I sugested, for a relatively nice gain, for not much money, put the crank pulley on and an exhaust tip, or if you really have to have the sound put the crank pulley and a muffler on. either way you will feel a difference and will have not spent a ton of money.