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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:36 PM
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stop arguing about racing teams. i have seen a quad with a turbo. it works fine, it just needed 6 months of tuning and lots of fab on intake side.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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Here's the big question, were gains significant over using just one big TB? 6 months of tuning is insane and if it takes that long to tune it, how safe can the tune be (ie. how close to the border is the tune and how finicky is the tune)?
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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in all of the articles the same answer was given and almost mentioned in passing. it would be to hard is the basic answer. so my question is has anyone done it so they can say it doesnt work. in theory it would work. in theory it should work better. yes it would be hard. but if something is hard then more than likely its worth having. what personal experience do you have with quads or a turbo that would lead you to believe that it would not work. im not looking for a simple that "wouldnt be worth it" answer. on top of that the qauds are 112 mm,collectively, i dont know of any single throttle body that big available for our cars.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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did you read those threads i posted?
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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It isn't as simple as saying "the combined size of the quads is 112 mm, therefore it will flow better", you have to deal with each TB as it's own entity. No one has done it as it is a pointless mod, there are a lot of things you could do that would yield better gains for less. Unless you plan on making your lancer a race car, just drop the idea, it's that simple.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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did you read those threads i posted?
yes i did and they were mostly about quads but they only seemed to mention a turbo setup in passing.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ambystom01
It isn't as simple as saying "the combined size of the quads is 112 mm, therefore it will flow better", you have to deal with each TB as it's own entity. No one has done it as it is a pointless mod, there are a lot of things you could do that would yield better gains for less. Unless you plan on making your lancer a race car, just drop the idea, it's that simple.
you do not have to deal with each throttle body as its on entity. they are setup much like the linkage on the dual 4barrel carbs are like on my truck . so they act as a single throttle. anything can be run on the street depending on what level of comfort you plan on keeping.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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In terms of flow you have to deal with them all separately. Four TBs with a combined port size of X mms will not flow the same as one large TB with a port size of X mms.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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do you mean in terms of tuning or just in general(ie fabricating around them because one wouldnt receive the same flow as the other) what specifically do you mean?
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Quad throttle bodies are used for NA so that you can have open throttle bodies. No real manifold, just 4 tubes coming straight out of the cylinder head with a butterfly on each, to suck in air. A turbo would hinder that.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 04:56 PM
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Why even complicate matters? Keep it simple . . . otherwise, it's like saying "I want Quad turbo setup for my lancer."

Odds of fact: NO ONE with a USDM mirage has ever made Quad work. In Aussie, yes, because RPW is in their backyard. Hell, there is a Quad kit for SR20's . . . how many SR20 swappers ever even want to toss Quad into their turbo setup?

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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Why even complicate matters?
Some people just want to be innovative. This guy sounds like he wants to do it more to prove us wrong than because it would make power...
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by kungfugirl
stop arguing about racing teams. i have seen a quad with a turbo. it works fine, it just needed 6 months of tuning and lots of fab on intake side.
Where have you seen this setup, and on what car? Do you have any links?

The whole point of a quad setup is so each cylinder gets the air it needs on demand without have to pull through an intake manifold. A turbo creates positive pressure in an intake manifold which is why only one big TB is needed.
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
Some people just want to be innovative. This guy sounds like he wants to do it more to prove us wrong than because it would make power...

Then, he'll follow the footstep of this guy in the link below.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...ntegra_type_r/

"Deric Massie of Mason, Ohio, purportedly dumped $80,000 into his 2001 Type R with the help of BASZ Racing" for "13.25 sec with turbo and nitrous".

Gotta love money well spent!!!!!! I swear I can't even make this up.

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/uscc/0303scc_uscc11/



BTW:
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/fe...car_challenge/

The VR4 braggart is just as lame, all talk about his sex appeal of his car. Make Mitsu owners look real bimbo-esque!
Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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thats his first problem, BASZ. among many others... thats what happens when someone else does your work. like i said before i sort of have an affinity for fabrication. at least i think so. ive seen worse though. seriously, i dont plan on spending to much for the whole setup. overcourse over time considering im only an e-3 with a wife and kid. thanks for all the imput guys.



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