well im getting my car back today hopefully and ill see how fast i can do 0-60 with someone in the passanger seat to check time. I sit here watching the second counter on a video/song playback, and i cant fathom TEN SECONDS. Thats honestly a lifetime and i keep up with GT Mustangs if im rolling already. Its from a stop thats horrible but it cant be THAT bad, thats just insane.

 

It's first gear. I swear you probably spend 5 seconds getting to the MIVEC point.

I'll keep testing as possible. I'd like to get some numbers before I put on my first mod.

 

There has to be a way to launch the car.. if even alittle bit to get it to like 2/2.5k rpms, just that much closer lol. How much wear/damage would it cause to Brake launch? im guessing that would be a way to do it, just foot on the brake, gas, release brake? who knows...

 

neutral drop

 

I already asked that, and i believe the reply i got was...

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NEVER NEVER EVER EVER N DROP YOUR CAR!

Supposably it'll cause alot of damage to the tranny go figure :P

Thats why i wonder if it wont really damage the breaks too much since they are just holding the wheels still then when you pop the break they just start movin? is that even feesible?

 

Yeah I believe I was the one who said that. I've watched many diffs grenade from neutral drops. Not to mention other internal injuries.

As far as brake prepping, most do that (to a point) in an automatic. It allows pressure to build and the TC to fill with fluid - thus making a much cleaner and faster launch. I don't know how the CVT will react to this though - the biggest deal is the whole "rubber band effect" from what I hear.

 

So to sum it all up, it seems that the highest trim GTS model which is the most expensive trim is the slowest of the new Lancers due to the use of the same engine across the entire range and additional weight? Usually the more expensive vehicles in the lineup offer the best perfromance I think what is going to happen is that for 2009 model year not only will Mitsubishi reprogram the CVT ratios but also drop in the 2.4l engine inside the GTS trim, something they should have done from the beginning.

 

This is no different from the last models where the OZ was again slightly heavier than the ES.

Besides how nice the GTS model looks I personally would opt for an ES since it has the 4 wheel disc brakes. Half of us will end up changing the rims anyway.

WADAD

 

I would change it to say that the CVT is the slowest of the bunch. But then, no one has done much non-CVT auto testing. All I've really seen so far are people testing/dynoing their manual cars.

Until more tests are done, we really can't blame/hate on anything about this car. It's all freaking guesswork at this point.

 

I have six gears and you dont, nuff said.. watch as i cruise at 80 getting better gas milage than you! what now.. exactly.



Anywho, so brake prepping is A-OK? what is the "Rubber band" effect you speak of? and what are the downsides of brake prepping? And so long as the CVT is used in manual mode like this i dont see it really havent an affect since it wont try to change ratios or anything.

 

I am not hating on the new GTS, I think it's a nice ride, a huge improvemnt over the last generation of Lancers. And obviously it's a first year run of a totally new design so it will have it's growing pains, I am more than sure Mitsubishi over time will optimize the performance a bit more. And I also suspect that next year not only will we see Evo X and GSX but also a 2.4l engine in a GTS trim. The better the car will sell, the more configurations Mitsubishi will tamper with and currently the new Lancer is selling quite nicely for Mitsu so it's a good sign. And as 0-60 times go, Evolutionm.net did a test of a 5-speed ES and the time was around 7.65 sec which is very respectable coming out of a 2.0l NA engine with a curb weight of about 3,000 pounds.

Two things you can't take away from the new Lancers is a great road holding/stiffer chassis and a tight turning radius which it all makes the car extremely agile.

 

Alright, let me just say this car was made to be a practical, fuel efficient vehicle that is FUN TO DRIVE. That of which has been accomplished and is undeniable. This is a sedan, it has luxury, safety, fuel economy, and enough power/handling and looks to make it insanely fun and appealing.

And the more money you spend, the more of each you get. More money = better sound system, nav, tech package, disk brakes, CVT (best fuel economy.. 6th gear ftw). This car was made for practical everyday use that just happens to have a bit of power, crazy agility and some nice looks.

If you want a powerhouse lancer dont even waste money on the RA for a 2.4l engine, or an upgraded GTS with a 2.4l engine, thats simply stupid. Go as impractical as possible and get the Evo, then you cant complain that you wish it was an evo. Go all the way or dont go at all

Again the only problem i see the GTS/CVT having is first gear, always will be. So, i need someone to answer my brake prep questions! im trying to figure a launch style for the CVT.

 

Only way you are going to get lower times with the CVT is to launch it. The Tranny will be fine because the car is only going to rev about 2500rpm's . Normal tranny's can hold that kind of abuse for years i don't see why the CVT wouldn't. I bet anyone if they launch the CVT lancer they can lower the 0-60 by one whole second or even more. With my 03 Lancer ES without launching it with the Brake Stand my times are crazy high and the car feels wicked slow. Trust me you gotta launch the the thing and if the car breaks i believe you are still under warranty for some time.

 

Hey Black,
If the GTech isn't that precise and you switch to a stopwatch with a 2nd driver; wouldnt that add weight to the launch, where the problem lies?
Unless their is a way he can do it from the outside while you utilize the bluetooth feature to help you mark 60mph. Provided your car has it. or something?

 

Yeah, imagine how i feel chino, just me getting in the car is a 10% weight increase to my vehicle

It shouldnt make that much of a difference, if the launch sucks, its gonna suck. I just got my car back and i swear its faster in auto than it is manual now. If anything just find the skinniest person you can