Ok so this really isnt a project, but its something that has become increasingly more important in terms of comparing apples to apples. What i mean is, with all the upgrades I am moving forward with many people have been inquiring how much hp will it give me, how much restriction was there from that stock part.

When using a Dyno machine, results vary, big time. I think BlackSheep is sick to death of explaining that dynos cant be compared.

So there has to be a uniform standard to make comparing more tangible / easy / accessible. We all cant pull in to a dyno shop that has the same machine running, it would make things simple, but thats in a perfect world.

Here is the idea, to use uniform standard for performance comparing. Especially for + and - situations when comparing similar products such as full cat backs vs. stock muffler replacement. SRI vs. CAI, High flow cats to head replacements, well when we get there. Here is the problem though, Although Gtech devices are pretty accurate at calculating power at the wheels, AKA NET Horsepower and TQ figures. There is a snag in the CVT department.

CVTs have been known in some situations to not work with the gtech device because some of the Gtechs calculations work by actually messuring Gforces. With a CVT in Auto it may or may not calculate properly. So what i am looking for is a volenteer, here is why. I have had some light communication with Tesla Electronics the maker of the Gtech, and have told them I want to buy but am unsure if its going to work on the CVT line. And I need to test it out. They have a 30 day money back guarentee but, hey I live in canada do i really want to go thru all that crap to ship it back if it dont work.

So i am looking for a volenteer. If i get myway, then hopefully we can get a donated model to evaluate the products compatibility. for free. Since I am not sure what will happen when i talk to them again, the product may have to be purchased / returned of course afterwards. If i can work it out on my end, then great, if not then it will be up to the volenteer to carry the torch to work something out. But we will see

But either way I am looking for someone who lives close to Tesla Electronics
Warranty Dept., Gtech Division
1749 14th St.
Santa Monica, CA 90404-4300

that addresss who has a bit of free time to wreak havok on there engine for a few hours for testing. I am looking for 2008 Lancer with CVT transmission and able to test CVT Manual function as well as AUTO - D Function and as well collect some data for comparing results later.

Now if someone out there has a Gtech Latest model RR model then we can avoid this excersise all together.

Anyways I am putting the idea out there and talking to the manufacturer Monday.

 

That's an excellent idea. That's what most car magazines use an simply take the HP and torque ratings from the manufacturer. I personally have an older G-Tech meter and I would be glad to do 0-60 times

 

Thanks for the offer mitsu fan, by all means all 0-60 times and meter readings are welcome, unforunately the older meter is unavailble from the manufactuer. So for wider scale comparing the use of the lastest two versions the SS and RR are going to be the standard.

Its only cause I personally dont know what the differences / changes are between the models like the one you have vs. the new ones out today.

but if you have GTS with CVT , hell see if it gives you consistant HP / TQ numbers

 

Mine didn't...

If you look at my testing thread, you'll note that I could not get anything consistent. Hell, even just using a stopwatch and testing 0-60, I couldn't get consistent numbers. (Numbers are small and at the bottom, since the testing went so bad)

 

any one has a timeslip from the 1/4mil. strip

 

i hope the latest model works. Fingers are crossed

 

I think the GTech works fine for the most part. Sure there are some tweaks that need to be done, but when I did some 1/4 mile tests, I was able to get them fairly close to each other. I know a better test would be to do it on a track to be able to compare the results to a time slip, but for now that will have to wait. As for the test, my M/T GTS is still stock.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_Tg2TS4vd7zg/...Mile+Speed.bmp

 

only way IMO to get comparable readings is that EVERYONE must do a before and after dyno reading when they do mods...this will show increase (if any) of the new part and won't focus on the final number, that or we all drive to the same dyno

 

RJRR, I see you have the Manual GTS, is there anyone you know with a GTS CVT ?

Not sure how strong the car club scene is out there in Calgary.

 

I'm not sure how strong it is as well, but I haven't really looked into it either. I would imagine there are a few GTS CVT's running about Calgary, but I don't know anyone specific. I was going to test the GTech on my parents Outlander with the CVT, but haven't had a chance to do it and see how well it works.

 

cool, keep me posted if you can, If you dont mind me asking ,where did you aquire your GTECH RR from? its hella expensive, and the duties are scary

 

Sure NP...Sent you a PM about website.

 

Gtech is not accurate at all. The exact same meter and the exact same car can give different reading for different drivers.

 

That is true. Hence why using an actual Dyno eliminates the bad driver out of the equation. For some of us (At least for me anyway), plan to use the GTech to simply see what results are got from various mods. I'll leave the true WHP to the Dyno.

 

Actually unlike a Dyno which is a fixed stable environment, a GTECH will give different readings at different times due to temp difference, car weight changes, addition or less Wind resistance.

I have used it in the past for a Celica car club meet. it was impressive to give consistant averaged results. Cars with performance mod differences did reflect as much in the GTECH dynos.

A gtech should it work, I think will provide a decent bench mark for comparing results across the board.

Dyno Machines are all different, I cant even count how many different types there are but the results they yeild on the indiviual level is good, but you cant compare across a field of other cars, which is what I would like to do, to start cataloging performance mods.

Alot of people always ask, well how much HP will this brand Exhaust give. Here is away to bring the ball park answer closer to home. Plus this is a good way to measure the net gain of removing paticular stock parts such as the STOCK INTAKE BOX.