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if you have $10,000+ laying around doing nothing, then have at it. Labor isn't gonna be your biggest expense, having all the custom parts fabricated is and even so, i doubt you're gonna do the work yourself, so you will have to pay someone. If you plan on using that BMW engine your gonna need a new transmission, ECU etc etc etc not to mention converting the car to RWD. which would mean using the back end of an evo most likely and then custom making more parts to make it work. So you should probably give up on the idea of swapping that in. Your most likely options would be another 4cyl mitsu engine.

The pulley thing is an easy fix....put your stock one back on. Then remove all the performance mods from your car. Take good care of the engine and it will last a long time. No matter what engine you are talking about, performance mods will shorten the lifespan and reliability.

If you have paid the car off already then leave it be. Pick up another project car and work on that instead. Find a BMW shell and put the engine into that instead. Build a track car or something, at least that will be worthwhile.

Your reasoning for wanting to swap out the engine still doesn't make sense. It's a brand new car, you shouldn't have bought it if you didn't like it. My opinion still stands, if you are this unhappy right now, 10 years from now you're gonna be even more unhappy. And even if you do swap out the engine, all the problems the car will give you and all the money you're gonna waste on it, you're gonna be even more unhappy with the car.

Take a step back and think about what you're saying.

- You're asking advice on something you don't plan on doing for 10 years..at least. Anything could happen between now and then.

- You want to remove the engine on a brand new car because you're mods are making it unreliable, and you've had one or two problems with it but for some reason won't get it fixed under warranty

- The lancer is completely paid off yet you want to spend $10,000+ on it. With that amount of money you could A) trade the car in on an Evo B) buy a project car and build it up

- You think you'll be able to sell the car in 10 - 20 years and get a decent amount. So you're willing to spend $10,000+ so you can get $2,000 when you sell the car. Doesn't add up to me

- Your lancer is your daily driver. So doing an engine swap would mean living without that car for several months

You clearly have no grasp or concept on how big this really is. You claim you don't buy high ticket items, however swapping another engine into this car for no good reason is exactly that.

When all said and done, in 10 years you're going to have an old, unreliable car with a lot of miles, and an engine with even more miles worth $0 that you've spend $25,000+ (including the price of the actual car) on.

 

I say just go for the swap so we can all just forget about this thread If you mess up then it would be a good mistake to learn from but if you pull it off then kewl beans and post it on evom when your done so you can wipe it at our faces

 

..in 10 years

 

Hopefully i won't be on the forums by then

 

Have to agree with crypto on this. I understand you want your car to last a long time, chances are in 10 years there wont even be any paint left on the car lol. I know I already want a different car and I've had it for less than a year. That's primarily because it has no *****, otherwise Its a nice car.

 

ok i think a engine swap to rwd would be bad ***. who doesnt want to be the only lancer in a drift scene lol. but if you think about it, it is the most un-logical things to do. if its a daily drive and just ment to last then it should be left stock. if you really want to invest money on a car that will last you forever then get a nice diesel car. yes it may not be the exact thing you want but it will last you a good million miles if you take good care of it. i just ran into a guy at my autos class that has a 1995 mercedes 230. ugliest thing ever but it has 1,133,000 some odd miles on it and runs like its new. so you could always have that as an option.

 

The concept of putting a bigger engine would be great, since our lancer is based off the ralliart, it should have the means to be converted to rear drive. Here is an interesting example I found on youtube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWW0-gQMWCc Everything would need to be custom fabricated, like headers, exhaust, drive shaft, need a different ecu, etc. It is true what the other guys are saying, after all the time and money spent, you could have gotten a $30,000 corvette in the first place (referring to the video).

 

thanks or all the info guys..

i've thought it through... im gonna sell the civic in about 2 years or so.. and use that cash on a used lotus exige. until then, this lancer will stay stockish. maybe add in a turbo if i really get bored down the line like u guys say, i might change my mind.

 

wait til you want to do the swap to ask questions about it, plain and simple

 

wow geez sorry for offending you by asking a question for the future... relax man

 

I don't get why he hates the engine so much. And I don't get whats the point of an engine swap on a perfectly new engine. Why not just keep the engine and turbo it and so some other mods, I'm pretty sure it will be a hell of a lot cheaper.

 

This is speculation so don't take this to heart cuz I could very easily be a dumb***. I am actually planning on doing a 4b11t swap long time down the road if I still have my 09gts. You'll have the same motor mounts so you won't need to modify the engine bay for the engine to fit. You can take the GSR 5spd tranny and slap that on there (I'm not sure what kind of fabrication is required so you wont need the rear drive train). This will give you a motor with a substantially bigger aftermarket support. You'll be able to get the performance you want with out the headache of a car with the heart of a different manufacturer. Just an idea I haven't fully looked into but it would be you best bet.

But if you're seriously looking into a swap now... I'd say to start calling junk yards and try to find a totaled evoX with an untouched motor. Cuz putting a different year and make engine into your car is only going to give you a bigger headache and a much lighter pocket.

 

you should just buy a 94-98 galant 4g64, then get a JDM 4g63T and swap that engine in it. get a 6 bolt, it bolts right up... also you will need a EPROM ecu from 94 or 95 galant. boost that engine!! talking about ultimate sleeper!!! OMG!!

lets see

94-98 galant, $1000.00
4g63T 6 bolt, hmmm lets say 1000.00 to be safe ( with stock turbo)
project done in 2k or less

while you are at it. Get a 5sp tranny from a 94 galant, or 95-99 eclipse. Bolts right up.

I have done all that in 3 days with 6 hours of sleep.. its fun..

dont swap engines in brand new lancer... may be 6 years down the road

 

Is this guy serious? He can't be serious.

You should put an 8.0 litre V10 in your lancer. It's a perfect swap and all of your current bolt ons will transfer over without modification! In fact if you put Red Bull in your gas tank, the car will sprout wings and you can fly from point A to point B.

 

EvoX can be done, the easy part is the mounts, but speaking from experience, the problem will be the electrics-ECU,ETAC and the 20 other computers in this car, but you will have to get the 4b11t with the manual not the SST transmission.