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Old Mar 8, 2009 | 10:11 PM
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:15 AM
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any new car? 6-10 months after the TC was out there were turbo kits out for half the price as this one...and still are..none of the prices of the kits have really gone down..the Genesis hasnt been out a month and theres a turbo kit upgrade for 2900. many other cars in the same situation. understandable the lancer dosent have a huge aftermarket support yet such as a TC. but you cant justify RRMs price beign reasonable or as you say "matching price with demand" if the price for demand was right. why 6 months after the kit has been released only ONE person on evom has it? Xtreeme boosts turbo which comes with everything RRMs does..also XBs turbo kit includes a tune..RRMs dosent but yet even with the tune in included it runs around 4gs..without about 3200 which is way more reasonable

im just being real. some people have been in the lancer community for a long time or they buy everyone of RRMs products, or lack the knowledge about other cars,turbos,ect. you think the price is reasonable? take your lancer to a shop that builds custom turbos let them look at it and ask if 5gs is reasonable for a turbo for this car.


Scion, and Hyundai collaborated with tuning companies before the release of those cars so there will be aftermarket support when they launched the car. Mitsubishi did the same thing for the EvoX, not the Lancer. Lancer was built to be a sporty economy car. RRM is directed to make our economy cars have a lil bite to them. The fact that there isn't another reliable company out there with a lancer turbo kit isn't surprising (considering they would have to make an 08 CVT/ 08 MT/ 09 CVT/ 09 MT specific kit). If Thought that this car would have a big enough following in the tuning scene than they would have planned an aftermarket stimulus prior to release. The base Lancer is an economy car, the TC and Genesis are both sport cars. Trust me, as much as I'd like to see a whole slew of aftermarket parts for this car, the chances are slim that it will be able to compete in the modding ability with a TC, SI, GTI... Therefore, you will be paying more for parts since A) no other companies are really touching the car, and B) not to many people bought the car to mod, and there fore none of the companies really want to touch it.

Would you really trust any shop to build you a turbo kit for under 4g's especially when they don't have the knowledge RRM has on the 4b series? That's just asking for a knock.

+ If you look around more you'll find a post of a 4b owner saying his friend owns a shop and quoted a custom kit for no less than 3600 or so. That's a connection with an owner for no less than 3600 which means after they did an inspection and some pipe mapping it could very well exceed 4k w/o tune.

Seriously though, take you lancer to a couple shops and see what they'll quote you. I can confidently say they'll either BS you or say no less than 4k.

RRM's price is very fair. If you want to risk your 20k+ brand new car just to save even a grand on a kit... That's your choice. As for me, if I keep the Lancer and can't 4b11t swap than I will be purchasing this great turbo kit from them. But that will be a year or so from now. Back to the topic...

Awesome video! Can't wait to see more!
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 04:21 AM
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Also I missed this point but a turbo upgrade is nothing like a complete kit for a N/A car. You can get a 100whp+ upgrade kit for the MS3 for 1500. But a kit for a Mazda 3 is 4500.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 06:38 AM
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since when was a TC a spots car? its an ecobox just like the lancer stock for stock the 2 cars are neck and neck,tc probably being slower..and why would insurance be dirt cheap on it if it was a performance car? its the definition of a sport economy car. mitsubishi has no control over aftermarket support, the companies do. also if you didnt know the lancer is the best selling mitsubishi and is selling well and most people probably pass one on a daily basis so the statment that there arent many out there isnt the case. example of pricing, being everyone knows supras are rare. when i had one going from twin turbo to single turbo a Greddy complete new kit..everything RRM pretty much includes ...cost 4100. so why is it justified to pay more for a cheap eco box that isnt rare, just because one company makes one right now? as i said before if the price was just people would be buying them like hotcakes but i dont have to argue on that subject because its bluntly obvious nobody is buying because of this high price tag. if you look through the RRM turbo thread of when it was being built scroll to when you see them announce the price and how many people were like never mind or thats out of my budget. its simple. its not a just price and the community and people have shown.

i had a friend get custom headers for his 08 lancer. paid less than 400$. same guy also got quoted for a turbo kit. around 3500. yes 3500 is better than 5gs id rather save that extra 1500 bucks.

if you want to spend 5k for a turbo kit thats your choice. might as well invest in a Ralliart and save a lot more money, that would be the wise decision and as for the video its nothing more than a lancer with an intercooler swerving lane to lane on empty streets with cheesy music. no sound or anything whatsoever imo it was a pointless video..


and i have no clue what your talking about a kit for a N/A and the mazda 3.. an upgrade turbo kit for a MS3 runs about 3600, the turbo alone is 1700. i know people who have one and have done upgrades. evo x turbo upgrade 4600.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by LuDa
since when was a TC a spots car? its an ecobox just like the lancer stock for stock the 2 cars are neck and neck,tc probably being slower..and why would insurance be dirt cheap on it if it was a performance car? its the definition of a sport economy car. mitsubishi has no control over aftermarket support, the companies do. also if you didnt know the lancer is the best selling mitsubishi and is selling well and most people probably pass one on a daily basis so the statment that there arent many out there isnt the case. example of pricing, being everyone knows supras are rare. when i had one going from twin turbo to single turbo a Greddy complete new kit..everything RRM pretty much includes ...cost 4100. so why is it justified to pay more for a cheap eco box that isnt rare, just because one company makes one right now? as i said before if the price was just people would be buying them like hotcakes but i dont have to argue on that subject because its bluntly obvious nobody is buying because of this high price tag. if you look through the RRM turbo thread of when it was being built scroll to when you see them announce the price and how many people were like never mind or thats out of my budget. its simple. its not a just price and the community and people have shown.

i had a friend get custom headers for his 08 lancer. paid less than 400$. same guy also got quoted for a turbo kit. around 3500. yes 3500 is better than 5gs id rather save that extra 1500 bucks.

if you want to spend 5k for a turbo kit thats your choice. might as well invest in a Ralliart and save a lot more money, that would be the wise decision and as for the video its nothing more than a lancer with an intercooler swerving lane to lane on empty streets with cheesy music. no sound or anything whatsoever imo it was a pointless video..


and i have no clue what your talking about a kit for a N/A and the mazda 3.. an upgrade turbo kit for a MS3 runs about 3600, the turbo alone is 1700. i know people who have one and have done upgrades. evo x turbo upgrade 4600.
ok, so here we go... The TC is a FF sports car as is the SI. Manufacturers will work with tuning companies for pre launch modifications, so please do your research. The Lancer is sold as an economy car and the majority of people who purchase the lancer use them as such (which is what I said, so please read thoroughly). TC's are lighter and a tad quicker than a Lancer, TC's were made for the tuning scene NOT LANCERS! Comparing mods for a Supra (extremely famous tuner which is ten years old) to a 08-09 Lancer is just ridiculous. Ofcourse parts for a supra will be cheaper than parts for a BRAND NEW car... It's older, and it was built for tuning therefore Greddy, HKS, Turbonetics, etc. etc. are all fighting in price for turbo kits. For the Lancer, RRM is really the only company offering one. There in lies the whole price and demand. There is not a huge demand of people looking to Turbo there lancer as there is Supra owners looking to upgrade there Supra...

http://www.turbokits.com/mazdaspeed3_turbo_kits.html MS3 upgrade kits for under 2k
http://www.turbokits.com/tC_turbo_kits.html TC turbo kits running for just under 4k

RRM is offering a 5spd kit for 4300... Looks pretty comparable to me. and does that 3500 include labor? probably not and as I said a quote at a shop in most cases raises in price when they finally get serious about it.

http://www.turbochargers.com/store/i...084aad32d90605 TC Turbo kits none under 4k

Fact is you bought an economy car, not a sports sedan like the RA or SI. Parts will cost more for your car because there is not a big enough demand for tuning companies to actually care about the base Lancer. Plus your car is only a year old. If thought this car would be a desirable tuner than they would have involved tuning companies in a pre launch modification plan... But they didn't, so either shell out an extra thousand on a kit or run the risk of having some mod shop custom make one for you... It won't have what RRM has. But it'll be a grand less.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 07:35 PM
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RRM turbo, look at all that comes with it... and than go seriously talk to a speed shop about a turbo kit w/ labor charges.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 08:35 PM
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what does that kit come with that every other kit leaves out? as far as the TC sport isnt even in its title if you have one or know somone who has one its a Compact same as a regular civic coupe it looks sporty but just because it looks sporty does that mean you can call it a sport? no they are compact cars and slow as crap. on your mazda website the kit is over 2k if you add all the parts nessisary why find a website with it all separate? im talking about a complete kit. if you go back TC was not launched with wide aftermarket support granted they sold well when launched it still took a little while for parts to be available so i dont think that a lot of aftermarket companies worked with toyota before then. you can find tc turbo kits for almost 2k dont throw up a 4k kit when everyone knows its easy and cheap to turbo that car. parts for a lancer are more expensive than a supra? you must be out of your mind. a catback exhaust from a good company will run you almost 3 grand alone.

from the way you think the car industry works im starting to think you fall under the category as about half of the lancer community the car being your first. calling a TC a sports car (sports cars are another word for performance cars) is insane, and thinking just because a car is new, that automatically means aftermarket parts are going to be expensive which is not true. truth of the matter is the kits over priced, not selling. most-all members can agree on that. if you dont then shell out 5 grand for the kit. i probably will never go turbo for the fact that i have an evo. but if i ever considered spending 5k to upgrade my 15-20k car i would definitely put that money twards a ralliart like the wise ones have already. in the long run saving a lot of money.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:16 PM
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The TC is not a sports car by definition, but alot of magazines, websites, car shows, ect put the TC under the Compact sports car category. Toyota's whole reason for developing the TC was to get into the tuning scene. They had the corolla but people prefered the civic, so they had to come up with a new car. Scion's whole philosophy is customization, they even offer super chargers for the TC from the factory. Hyundai already said they gave out a few genesis to a couple of tuning shops to get the aftermarket support and demand high. there were vids on youtube of shops doing stuff the the genesis long before it even came out. Even with the lancer being the best selling mitsubishi car, most of the people buying them are old men or women who just want a comfortable daily driver. Out of all the lancers I see around here. only me and another person look to be under 25. I had a guy who was 42 come up to me in a parking lot asking me questions about the car because he's 98% sure he wants to buy one. I told him i hated it because it was slow and I'd rather have a turbo or a bigger engine and he said it was to fast for him already when he test drove it. Fact is most people won't mod the lancer, so in order to recuperate R&D cost RRM has to charge a high amount.

Anyway, the RRM turbo is a solid kit. Reliable, fast, and despite what others say $4300 is a great price for what you get (No need to pay another $700 to get it tuned). Most other turbo kits don't include a piggy back and still cost $3500-$4000.
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:19 PM
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Quoting a kit for $3500 and making it run are 2 different things. I have had at least 5 different guys call me with I turbo my Lancer but it doesn't run!!!!! Can you help. The shop that did it said that is all the love I get for $____! Show me one running and I will bow down to them! Hahahaha. OTherwise talk is cheap. Thanks.

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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 09:48 PM
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i agree with both luda and bladed. the tc is definitely not anywhere near a sports car or performance car, and never will be and its also kinda looney to even consider it one. but it is extremely customizable which they have always advertised. its still a FWD car but it can be made a decent car to meet your needs.

as for the turbo kit i do think its overpriced, i see is350 kits run around the price of this. i wouldnt honestly not buy the kit but to each its own. i think if it was about 3500 many more would have it by now. just my .2
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 10:00 PM
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Rock, any word if the price will drop in the near or distant future? I think it's an awesome kit either way, I just don't have that kinda money laying around
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Old Mar 9, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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Luda seriously, do what you want. Fact is, the older the car and the more attention it gets in the tuning scene the cheaper the parts will become and more tuning companies will pick it up. This is far from my first car, I've had a 92 mr2 (did a full engine swap), 94 celica, 87 300zx. All of which were modded and all of which were cheap due to the age and classification of vehicle. Parts for a new Civic Si are going to cost more than a 90's Si. If you aren't even going to turbo your Lancer than why does this even matter to you? You have an Evo, so why even bother turboing your lancer (which I'm guessing is your DD). Don't talk down to me about car issues, I may not know a lot but I do my research.

Go talk to your shop about a turbo-kit with a piggy-back that'll run for under 4k, I live in Vegas and here the shops will literally quote you one thing and charge you another... That's the way it goes here.

Also the IS series kits are going to cost since it's a new car. I would love a new IS... Just don't have the pockets

RRM did research and studied the 4b series prior to the turbo kit, so you know your getting your moneys worth. And with the economy the way it is a lot of people are saying they are looking to turbo and can't afford it... They'll stay be saying that if the kit cost 3500.

So if you don't even plan to go turbo than don't be outraged about the price. And don't go around insulting people saying the wise ones go to the RA... Cuz not everyone has the money to drop 24k on a car just to ditch it a year or two later to buy a 26k car. Please show a little more respect, we're all owners here.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 03:55 PM
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No price drops. Some prices like for turbo (itself) just went up in price. I am trying not to pass the expense on but safe to say we cannot really lower the price. Also guys that made our manifolds went out of business so we found a new guy but he is charging us more for manifolds too. Just when you think prices are going down......... People are comparing mass produced kits untuned and in some cases missing engine management all together to our kit. Not a fair comparision. These kits are made to order one at a time. It is just different than TCs or other car kits. Toyota prolly sold over a million TCs. Mitus sold less than 10000 LAncers in 2 years...... Somone that is an Econ/Business major should figure it out.

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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:27 PM
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No price drops. Some prices like for turbo (itself) just went up in price. I am trying not to pass the expense on but safe to say we cannot really lower the price. Also guys that made our manifolds went out of business so we found a new guy but he is charging us more for manifolds too. Just when you think prices are going down......... People are comparing mass produced kits untuned and in some cases missing engine management all together to our kit. Not a fair comparision. These kits are made to order one at a time. It is just different than TCs or other car kits. Toyota prolly sold over a million TCs. Mitus sold less than 10000 LAncers in 2 years...... Somone that is an Econ/Business major should figure it out.

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but how can you explain Xtreemeboosts planning to release their turbos around 3500 without a tune? they essentially come with the same things, and it seems they are doing way more testing.
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Old Mar 10, 2009 | 10:37 PM
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I have posted before. We will match them price wise for the SAME AMOUNT OF KIT. If they sell a complete kit down the last hose clamp tuned for $3500, I will too. Talk is all you have from them right now. IF you want serious exxplaination, i insist you call me and we will go over things item by item. I am not concerned with that kit cause it is not even close to the kit kit we sell. Seems like they are talking more about the kit but talking is not driving around BOOSTED. Not trying to be a D@#k just stating the obvoius facts. You asked me to explain so I did. Please call me though. I can explain better over the phone. Hate writing 500 word essays. I get about 80 emails a day. Finger hurt by midnight every night.

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