what the difference with the drop in vs sri?

 

its minimal on the 08 lancer stick with a drop in.

 

There is not a difference between the SRI and the drop in. I had both, and actually stuck with the drop in because of the noise factor getting annoying from the SRI during Highway driving. As far as power gains; don't expect any! Just expect a thinner wallet. I would recommend spending the $50 for the K&N drop in. It makes a nice sound, and makes you feel like you may have actually gained something for your money! Just don't spend $300 and get the same results but have to spend $250 more to do so!

 

remember also the reason you wont see any gains that high from a drop in is because the crinckle hose into the TB. it accually roughs up the air flow into the engine. when you get a SRI or a CAI they smooth out the air better and allow the air a strightline into the TB.

 

You don't want the air to be smooth.

 

yes you do. read some hydrodynamics books its the same for air as it is for water. by reducing friction in the airflow you allow the engine to get the maximum air it needs. and engine can only take in the air it needs when N/A. forced induct is way different.

with my S/C dakota when i had a long path for the air thru the intercooler it accually took away from my boost because of all the friction and bends in the hose. when i rerouted the hose to nothing but a S/C to the TB i gained back 3 PSI and ran a 13.4 instead of the 13.8-14.1.

thats the reason the turbonator is garbage because it messes with the airflow. hydro dynamics is one thing that i do know a little about from reading books on it for my S/C.

besides if you wasnt suppose to have smooth air why do all the intake have smooth tubes?

 

so true..

full second off 0-60 my ***, even though i knew it was a lie when i got it..but it was used and cheap..so i took it..and then sold it back because it did nothing but make noise

 

No, you don't. You want the air to be turbulent when it enters the cylinders to better mix the fuel, if it entered perfectly calm, you wouldn't get a proper mixture and you'd have regions that were richer or leaner than others. The Tornado or Turbonator sucks because it's pre-MAF, which fubars the reading. After the MAF though, you want the air to start tumbling and mixing.
What you experienced was the result of a pressure drop (or lack thereof) and a reduction in piping length and thus lag, not smoother air flow per say or a lack of friction. I would experience the same thing if I converted to a FMIC setup, even using hard pipes.
Intake manufacturers do it because pre-MAF you want smoothness for a better reading and I suspect price.

 

dude the friggen tb distort the air when entering the cyl. the way its suppose to. the crinkle tube make the air flow slower into the TB. you talk all this crap but i bet you dont know half the crap you talk about read sometimes. i told you friction messes with performance. the turbonator can be put anywhere in the intake system. it acts as a blockage in the system and the com reads as a slower air flow and makes the engine lower its hp and thus makes it run more effiecntly.(gas saver)

{BESIDES SINCE WHEN DOES THE FUEL GET SPRAYED INTO THE INTAKE TUBE AND NEED TO TUMBLE BEFORE THE TB}

when the piston goes down into the block it sucks air and fuel in thru the intake valves that is where the mixing takes place. then the swirl inside the cyl mixes the fuel and allows for a better combustion in the chamber after it compresses on the up stroke. when the compression reaches the top of the chamber it explodes from the spark plug. this is a little after the mixing in the cyl. when the valve closes the swirl dosent mean crap before the TB. if you talk so much try reading about internal actions of the engine.

plus i had hard tubes for every part of my truck other then the certain places it needed to be soft conector spots. besides when does a S/C have lag? if i lagged id be slower in the 1/4 not faster smart guy.

 

How will a crinkle tube make the air flow slower? Along the edges, sure, but whether the overall flow is dramatically reduced is doubtful and I've yet to see conclusive evidence to suggest otherwise. The turbonator is an entirely different issue but it is an obvious blockade in the system given that it has physical vanes. The ECU doesn't downgrade the HP, that's a result of less air entering a cylinder (there isn't some HP sensor).
You want the air to be tumbling when it enters the cylinders. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manifold_(automotive)

As for your last point, I was implying that you got faster because of a reduction in lag because of a reduction in the physical distance the air had to travel, not a reduction in friction.

I wish I could hear you over the sound of how awesome I am .

 

dude your not smart at all. i dont have a carb i have fuel injection on my truck dumbass. learn about differences in engines. the friggen fuel injectors are placed directly over the cyl where the valves are. when the valve opens the atmospheric pressure in the chambers sucks the fuel and air inside mixing the fuel. a carb would suck for spraying fuel but fuel injection replaced that for a reason it sprays into the cyl. you just seem to be sticking your foot further into your mouth with every post.

plus wiki is garbage anyone and there grandma can change stuff on it.

 

i have to go to sleep now because the com isnt my life you can stay here and whine about how stupid you look now. il be back on tomarrow when i can to read what more garbage you post on here.

 

The irony of your attacks are just awesome. Unless you have direct injection, the injectors are placed in the intake manifold and they spray the fuel in before it technically enters the cylinders. If you have direct injection, air tumbling is still damn important.
What was it you said about putting my foot in my mouth?
In case wikipedia isn't enough for this pwnage, here we go.
http://www.faqs.org/patents/app/20080314352

http://encyclopedia2.thefreedictiona...r-fuel+mixture

 

look captain dumbshyt, you only place on your vehicle that you need the tumbling and swirling is inside the combustion chamber. your intake kit has nothing to do with the air and fuel mixing. and yes if you have a car that is newer then 1980 you have a direct port injection. that is where your injectors sit right above the cyl and only sprays when the valve opens. as i said before you car right about tumble but your wrong about the area it needs to be in. it doesnt have to tumble till it passes thru the intake manifold. dude no one cares how much crap you put on here it dont change the fact your wrong. your intake tube is smooth to allow the air to travel faster into the cyl. the tumbling takes place after the air hits the valve and mixes the fuel and air. you happen to be 30% correct bU!!SH!TTING the other 70% trying to tell a mechanic how things work. as i told you befire in my paragraph. all cars that you have seperate fuel injectors are direct port now. i bet if you accually pop your hood on your car and remove the plastic cover and use youe eyes instead or your mouth and learn something you owuld see that your injectors sit above each cyl. you can post all the crap on here that you want from anyplace you want but untill you learn how internal combustion works you will always be a second rate information BS'er you may be able to BS noobs on here but ppl that accually work on cars know where you need the tumble.

oh and BTW if you think your tumbley air can beat smooth air we can settle this at the track with my dakota R/T and you can use your lancer or your subi it matters not.

"On the SOHC V8, the shape of the combustion chambers has been revised to provide improved tumbling motion of the air/fuel charge, and the exhaust valves have been repositioned."

even here you are a dumbass you just proved me right in this part INSIDE THE COMBUSTION CHAMBER IS WHERE THE TUMBLEING IS!

 

"A charge-control valve serves to disrupt the laminarity of air or air/fuel mixture moving along the intake manifold runner and imparts a specific turbulent motion to the mixture entering the cylinder head. This motion is desirable to promote complete atomization of the fuel in the air stream and to insure even distribution of the air and fuel. A well atomized, homogeneous mixture of air and fuel results in better burn characteristics in the cylinder and allows for more efficient engine operation. "

this quote here is for a carborated engine also so your not helping your cause much by showing everyone that what i have said about the air inside the intake tube dont matter and that it helps to be smooth into the TB.

NO ONE ONE HERE WITH A LANCER HAS A CARBORATOR SO YOU ARE STUPID JUST ADMIT WHEN YOURE WRONG AND GO ON FINDING NOOBS THAT DONT KNOW ANYTHING TO F@#$ WITH.