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look captain dumbshyt, you only place on your vehicle that you need the tumbling and swirling is inside the combustion chamber. your intake kit has nothing to do with the air and fuel mixing. and yes if you have a car that is newer then 1980 you have a direct port injection. that is where your injectors sit right above the cyl and only sprays when the valve opens. as i said before you car right about tumble but your wrong about the area it needs to be in. it doesnt have to tumble till it passes thru the intake manifold. dude no one cares how much crap you put on here it dont change the fact your wrong. your intake tube is smooth to allow the air to travel faster into the cyl. the tumbling takes place after the air hits the valve and mixes the fuel and air. you happen to be 30% correct bU!!SH!TTING the other 70% trying to tell a mechanic how things work. as i told you befire in my paragraph. all cars that you have seperate fuel injectors are direct port now. i bet if you accually pop your hood on your car and remove the plastic cover and use youe eyes instead or your mouth and learn something you owuld see that your injectors sit above each cyl. you can post all the crap on here that you want from anyplace you want but untill you learn how internal combustion works you will always be a second rate information BS'er you may be able to BS noobs on here but ppl that accually work on cars know where you need the tumble.
oh and BTW if you think your tumbley air can beat smooth air we can settle this at the track with my dakota R/T and you can use your lancer or your subi it matters not.
"On the SOHC V8, the shape of the combustion chambers has been revised to provide improved tumbling motion of the air/fuel charge, and the exhaust valves have been repositioned."
even here you are a dumbass you just proved me right in this part INSIDE THE COMBUSTION CHAMBER IS WHERE THE TUMBLEING IS!
oh and BTW if you think your tumbley air can beat smooth air we can settle this at the track with my dakota R/T and you can use your lancer or your subi it matters not.
"On the SOHC V8, the shape of the combustion chambers has been revised to provide improved tumbling motion of the air/fuel charge, and the exhaust valves have been repositioned."
even here you are a dumbass you just proved me right in this part INSIDE THE COMBUSTION CHAMBER IS WHERE THE TUMBLEING IS!
No, you don't. You want the air to be turbulent when it enters the cylinders to better mix the fuel, if it entered perfectly calm, you wouldn't get a proper mixture and you'd have regions that were richer or leaner than others. The Tornado or Turbonator sucks because it's pre-MAF, which fubars the reading. After the MAF though, you want the air to start tumbling and mixing.
Direct port injection is not what you are talking about. I have a 2007, it does not have direct port injection. My 2003 Lancer did not have direct port injection. The fuel injectors inject into the intake manifold, not directly into the cylinder like on many modern cars. Once again, you are wrong here, a simple search on google would yield this.
"A charge-control valve serves to disrupt the laminarity of air or air/fuel mixture moving along the intake manifold runner and imparts a specific turbulent motion to the mixture entering the cylinder head. This motion is desirable to promote complete atomization of the fuel in the air stream and to insure even distribution of the air and fuel. A well atomized, homogeneous mixture of air and fuel results in better burn characteristics in the cylinder and allows for more efficient engine operation. "
this quote here is for a carborated engine also so your not helping your cause much by showing everyone that what i have said about the air inside the intake tube dont matter and that it helps to be smooth into the TB.
NO ONE ONE HERE WITH A LANCER HAS A CARBORATOR SO YOU ARE STUPID JUST ADMIT WHEN YOURE WRONG AND GO ON FINDING NOOBS THAT DONT KNOW ANYTHING TO F@#$ WITH.
this quote here is for a carborated engine also so your not helping your cause much by showing everyone that what i have said about the air inside the intake tube dont matter and that it helps to be smooth into the TB.
NO ONE ONE HERE WITH A LANCER HAS A CARBORATOR SO YOU ARE STUPID JUST ADMIT WHEN YOURE WRONG AND GO ON FINDING NOOBS THAT DONT KNOW ANYTHING TO F@#$ WITH.
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Dude all your posts are supporting me and what i have said. Now if your talking about carborated vehicles that dont have injectors then you would be correct with the carb and intake manifold. That would need a tumble in the manifold. Almost all cars with a carb dont have an intake tube they have a filter right on top of the carb.
You are a poser and now your frantically looking for stuff to suport your cause and everything you find either says cumbusation chamber or port injection meaning im right and your not.
YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CRY ALL YOU WANT BUT YOUR STILL WRONG. BESIDES IT DONT MATTER WHEN IT WAS POSTED ANY CAR CAN BE USED FOR RESEARCH DUH. AND AS I SIAD BEFORE IF YOU HAVE AN INJECTOR ABOVE YOUR VALVES ITS DIRECT PORT AND YES IT HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO MIX IN THE CHAMBER SINCE MOST OR THE ACTIONS INSIDE THE PISTON CHAMBER ARE SWIRLING TUMBLEING MOTIONS.
You are a poser and now your frantically looking for stuff to suport your cause and everything you find either says cumbusation chamber or port injection meaning im right and your not.
YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CRY ALL YOU WANT BUT YOUR STILL WRONG. BESIDES IT DONT MATTER WHEN IT WAS POSTED ANY CAR CAN BE USED FOR RESEARCH DUH. AND AS I SIAD BEFORE IF YOU HAVE AN INJECTOR ABOVE YOUR VALVES ITS DIRECT PORT AND YES IT HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO MIX IN THE CHAMBER SINCE MOST OR THE ACTIONS INSIDE THE PISTON CHAMBER ARE SWIRLING TUMBLEING MOTIONS.
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"No, you don't. You want the air to be turbulent when it enters the cylinders to better mix the fuel, if it entered perfectly calm, you wouldn't get a proper mixture and you'd have regions that were richer or leaner than others. The Tornado or Turbonator sucks because it's pre-MAF, which fubars the reading. After the MAF though, you want the air to start tumbling and mixing."
AND RIGHT HER YES YOU NEED IT TO BE TURBULANT IN THE CYLS. most times the intake manifold is made to tumble the air but what your talkin about isnt anything to do with the fuel injected car that the OP started with asking on here.
you cant stand it tht your wrong. so to show im the better man here i have said all i need to say and im done arguing with a POSER on the net.
AND RIGHT HER YES YOU NEED IT TO BE TURBULANT IN THE CYLS. most times the intake manifold is made to tumble the air but what your talkin about isnt anything to do with the fuel injected car that the OP started with asking on here.
you cant stand it tht your wrong. so to show im the better man here i have said all i need to say and im done arguing with a POSER on the net.
Dude all your posts are supporting me and what i have said. Now if your talking about carborated vehicles that dont have injectors then you would be correct with the carb and intake manifold. That would need a tumble in the manifold. Almost all cars with a carb dont have an intake tube they have a filter right on top of the carb.
You are a poser and now your frantically looking for stuff to suport your cause and everything you find either says cumbusation chamber or port injection meaning im right and your not.
YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CRY ALL YOU WANT BUT YOUR STILL WRONG. BESIDES IT DONT MATTER WHEN IT WAS POSTED ANY CAR CAN BE USED FOR RESEARCH DUH. AND AS I SIAD BEFORE IF YOU HAVE AN INJECTOR ABOVE YOUR VALVES ITS DIRECT PORT AND YES IT HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO MIX IN THE CHAMBER SINCE MOST OR THE ACTIONS INSIDE THE PISTON CHAMBER ARE SWIRLING TUMBLEING MOTIONS.
You are a poser and now your frantically looking for stuff to suport your cause and everything you find either says cumbusation chamber or port injection meaning im right and your not.
YOU CAN SIT HERE AND CRY ALL YOU WANT BUT YOUR STILL WRONG. BESIDES IT DONT MATTER WHEN IT WAS POSTED ANY CAR CAN BE USED FOR RESEARCH DUH. AND AS I SIAD BEFORE IF YOU HAVE AN INJECTOR ABOVE YOUR VALVES ITS DIRECT PORT AND YES IT HAS PLENTY OF TIME TO MIX IN THE CHAMBER SINCE MOST OR THE ACTIONS INSIDE THE PISTON CHAMBER ARE SWIRLING TUMBLEING MOTIONS.
Direct injection as you were referring to it means the fuel injector is physically in the cylinder and injects directly into it. Many cars do not have this, they inject at the port and this is called multi-port injection. In either case, you still want the air mixing before it enters the cylinders.
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What are you even talking about? I posted links for fuel injected cars. The same rules apply, apparent from the method in which the fuel and the air is combined, the rules that apply to a carbureted engine apply to a fuel injected engine. The air is tumbling and swirling before it enters the cylinders, this is engine 101.
Direct injection as you were referring to it means the fuel injector is physically in the cylinder and injects directly into it. Many cars do not have this, they inject at the port and this is called multi-port injection. In either case, you still want the air mixing before it enters the cylinders.
Direct injection as you were referring to it means the fuel injector is physically in the cylinder and injects directly into it. Many cars do not have this, they inject at the port and this is called multi-port injection. In either case, you still want the air mixing before it enters the cylinders.
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