Hmmm.. the Option I was talking about for a head swap was from the 96' and newer Lancer GSR that has a 4G93T in it.

Its not that the car is really rare, they just haven't started really making it into the yards for export in Japan they way some other engines have.

You would still have to have things like timing belt assembly, possibly accessory brackets, and other odds and ends to make it work.

Then you would have to do computer modifications or use a stand alone.

Going DOHC might be more trouble than it's worth.


Oh, forgot to say it earlier.. Nice board you have here guys.

 

Well, yeah - that's what I meant by looking for an older JDM engine
as being a hassle. Would not an EVO III engine work/fit properly
in a current ('99+) Galant?

 

All head related talks are off the topic of this thread. The purpose of swaping out said intake parts was mainly in the interest of improving the quality of turbocharging the Lancer; that is improved fuel delivery system and improved air intake to the engine. This thread initially started off questioning whether or not the Intake off the 4G6XT cars could be swapped. I don't know what wrong or right info is in this thread. As far as I know it could still all be wrong although the engine is similiar it is in a few ways still different and as of right now there are a whole of 2 tuning departments that could truely comment on the Lancer and a whole of 1 racing team(RMR) that could truely tell whether the switch would truely be impossible. I still have questions about the Mitsu Colt which I saw(actually have pictures of SOHC head with DCI) The only thing I'm truely clear on as of now is the size of the Lancers TB thats about it. I appreciate all the help and suggestions. I just want to clear this up though.

 

Your question about interchanging parts have been answered already. You act like if the lancer engine is some whole new redesigned engine. Sorry to disapoint you but it is very much like the rest of its family. The 4g92 4g93 and now 4g94. Look above to the answers to the questions that you already posted.

If you want good information we(mirage board) have worked hard for the past 2-3 years and have come along way. There is alot of info on the mirage board. I'm no pro or close to it but I have had real life experience with what I'm talking about.

 

Look I'm not trying to get into a war here. Maybe you don't understand what I was saying in that post. If you want I'll break it down in a longer version so you can understand where I'm coming from. I see clearly where you're coming from.

nice site btw

 

Dude I completely understood what you said. What I meant is that the answers as to if a evo or any other 4g6 series intake manifold will fit into your 2.0s. The answer is no. Maybe you guys where talking about something else and I just skimmed through the threads? Don't know. Either way most answers to the things that I saw in this thread the guys(bahamet/blytz/etc) covered above.

 

I guess my idea of a parts swap and other people's are a bit different. I was not talking about fit barring modification. Meaning I was expecting the possibilities of work to make the thing fit. I think somehow or another this hole honda thing came up and got people confused. I guess I'll use fitted since its probably a more accurate term in this case. Yes the bolt up question was answered everyone agrees the manifolds do not bolt up; this doesn't mean they can't be transferred from block to block. I was really posing this entire thread to RMR since they have both blocks and both cars. I wanted to know if the fitment would benifit the Lancer at all regardless of whether it was a straight swap or not. The whole key to this thread is would it benifit the car? Maybe this kind of question is better discussed with a mechanical engineer.

 

Now if you are trying to put a manifold for a 200hp turbo'd car onto a 120hp non-turbo car expect a loss in the power band almost everywhere except for at the top end (possibly near your redline or above it).

You have to see that it isn't just a matter of the flanges bolting up but a matter of the intake manifold RUNNERS lining up. Since they don't line up you need to make some sort of adaptor pipe to connect to the 4G94 head from the 4G63T manifold and the price of all this starts to become too much unless you have already done everything else. You do realize that the equal length 4G94 manifold has better flow characteristics for your engine then the 4G63T manifold. The longer length of the manifold (from the adaptor pipes) would also alter the flow characteristics of the 4G63T manifold and disrupt airflow from the turns involved.

If you are dead set on a new manifold get the quad throttle body system from RPW with Haltech, the intake manifold from a 4G93T 96+ from Japan, or have yours extrude honed. Then again you have ALREADY BEEN TOLD by one of your main supporters that the 4G94 CAN NOT USE that much air. Get a camshaft for higher rpm, hope your crazy rod ratio doesn't spin the rod bearings, get some headers and then you might be able to make use of an intake manifold modification at high rpms. I think with just a different camshaft and the possibility of a slightly higher fuel cutoff rpm you might make use of an extrude honed intake manifold but remember that mitsubishi made your engine for low rpm torque to give it the feel of a larger engine since the Lancer is heavy for a small car. This requires an intake manifold with small (diameter) long runners.

As for my credentials: I am just an Electrical and Computer Engineering student who has taken a few mechanical engineering courses and I have done my own personal studies on automotive technology and applications over the past 4-5 years. I have several Engineering Physics courses as well which help me to understand the basics of the flow dynamics involved in systems such as intake manifolds etc, etc, etc.

 

That clears up all my questions. Thanks to everyone who had the patience to bear with this thread hopefully these questions will not be asked again. Trust me you guys although questions are asked more than once and in many different ways it doesn't mean that people are taking your advice for granted or not seeing you as a credible source.(AT LEAST NOT ME) All you guys deserve many a and a good toke on the PEACE PIPE.

I'll try and get this thread edited to cut out the stupid stuff.