K20 swap into 2003 Lancer ES?
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LOL I shot snot from my nose when I read the title..
dude you drive a mitsu, leave the honda motor in the hondas.
Since you have no idea I'll give you a detailed response as to why its a bad idea and why you didn't find any info on this swap because no one has done it before.
So quick list of things you'll need.
custom one off engine mounts.
custom one off axles
stand alone engine management system
custom shift linkage
custom exhaust
cost of tuning
various wires and hoses
probably more I've forgot but really even if you got the engine and transmission for free, the above would still cost more then just rebuilding and/or turboing your lancer.
dude you drive a mitsu, leave the honda motor in the hondas.
Since you have no idea I'll give you a detailed response as to why its a bad idea and why you didn't find any info on this swap because no one has done it before.
So quick list of things you'll need.
custom one off engine mounts.
custom one off axles
stand alone engine management system
custom shift linkage
custom exhaust
cost of tuning
various wires and hoses
probably more I've forgot but really even if you got the engine and transmission for free, the above would still cost more then just rebuilding and/or turboing your lancer.
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LOL I shot snot from my nose when I read the title..
dude you drive a mitsu, leave the honda motor in the hondas.
Since you have no idea I'll give you a detailed response as to why its a bad idea and why you didn't find any info on this swap because no one has done it before.
So quick list of things you'll need.
custom one off engine mounts.
custom one off axles
stand alone engine management system
custom shift linkage
custom exhaust
cost of tuning
various wires and hoses
probably more I've forgot but really even if you got the engine and transmission for free, the above would still cost more then just rebuilding and/or turboing your lancer.
dude you drive a mitsu, leave the honda motor in the hondas.
Since you have no idea I'll give you a detailed response as to why its a bad idea and why you didn't find any info on this swap because no one has done it before.
So quick list of things you'll need.
custom one off engine mounts.
custom one off axles
stand alone engine management system
custom shift linkage
custom exhaust
cost of tuning
various wires and hoses
probably more I've forgot but really even if you got the engine and transmission for free, the above would still cost more then just rebuilding and/or turboing your lancer.
Honestly.. if u can get your hands on most of the parts.. ull only really need custom engine mounts, and custom axles..
if u can get ahold of a whole front clip including the whole wiring harness, ecu, and everything.. hooking it up wouldant be that bad.
any issues would be all the accessories mainly..fuel/lights/switches etc.. anything thats not directly hooked to the motor would have to be wired up seperately with switches more then likely.
being that most k20/k24 motors arent very cheap i think ur still looking at 4-6k to do a swap.. really isnt as hard as someone might make it out to be.. but u will be spenind about a grand on axles, and probably.. 500+ on engine mounts dependin on who does makes them for u.
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hrmmm i think i could simplify this a bit more..
Honestly.. if u can get your hands on most of the parts.. ull only really need custom engine mounts, and custom axles..
if u can get ahold of a whole front clip including the whole wiring harness, ecu, and everything.. hooking it up wouldant be that bad.
any issues would be all the accessories mainly..fuel/lights/switches etc.. anything thats not directly hooked to the motor would have to be wired up seperately with switches more then likely.
being that most k20/k24 motors arent very cheap i think ur still looking at 4-6k to do a swap.. really isnt as hard as someone might make it out to be.. but u will be spenind about a grand on axles, and probably.. 500+ on engine mounts dependin on who does makes them for u.
Honestly.. if u can get your hands on most of the parts.. ull only really need custom engine mounts, and custom axles..
if u can get ahold of a whole front clip including the whole wiring harness, ecu, and everything.. hooking it up wouldant be that bad.
any issues would be all the accessories mainly..fuel/lights/switches etc.. anything thats not directly hooked to the motor would have to be wired up seperately with switches more then likely.
being that most k20/k24 motors arent very cheap i think ur still looking at 4-6k to do a swap.. really isnt as hard as someone might make it out to be.. but u will be spenind about a grand on axles, and probably.. 500+ on engine mounts dependin on who does makes them for u.
I would agree going this route would be easier but good luck splicing the accessories - pretty well the interior wiring harness into the rsx one. might become a really big pain fast.
I think drive shaft shop charges around $2000 for complete custom axles...
i duno.. look at it this way.. the two guys who did the evo engine swaps into their lancers using the ralliart transmission staying fwd paid close to 10 grand for parts + labour.. and that was from more or less the same platform. let alone going to a honda..
end of the day its just not worth it.
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Yep.. on a rollin shell it wouldnt that bad.. wiring up only the stuff needed wouldnt be that bad.. but ur talkin a car with almost no accessories..
10k for a stock motor.. and 220-240hp doesnt sound worth it to me at all..
even the evo swaps.. 10k for 300hp.. not worth it unless ur really giong all out with it.. better off just trading up cars.. or keepin what u got..
10k for a stock motor.. and 220-240hp doesnt sound worth it to me at all..
even the evo swaps.. 10k for 300hp.. not worth it unless ur really giong all out with it.. better off just trading up cars.. or keepin what u got..
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@turbotime- i wasnt going to do this, i just ordered a 4G92 head for my 4G94 block my friend was talking about it so i posted it and wanted to see what you guys would think about it. thats all i had no intentions of doing this.
@demon ni2- thanks for the response bro
@demon ni2- thanks for the response bro
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@JRR- will do bro, but I'm not doin the mivec head swap just the dohc head, I can get the mivec head for the same price but you have to change around the wires and it's a pain in the ***. The output is the same so there's no real difference and the dohc head is more reliable.
@sgt_petty- haha yea K20s are super sick man, my friend has a new si that runs hi 12s and I also have a friend with a turbocharged rsx type s so I don't wanna do that. The K20 idea would be sick but it's gonna cost hella bank. That's why I'm sticking with the head swap it's gonna provide a better basis to work off of then the Sohc head when I go turbo
@sgt_petty- haha yea K20s are super sick man, my friend has a new si that runs hi 12s and I also have a friend with a turbocharged rsx type s so I don't wanna do that. The K20 idea would be sick but it's gonna cost hella bank. That's why I'm sticking with the head swap it's gonna provide a better basis to work off of then the Sohc head when I go turbo
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@JRR- will do bro, but I'm not doin the mivec head swap just the dohc head, I can get the mivec head for the same price but you have to change around the wires and it's a pain in the ***. The output is the same so there's no real difference and the dohc head is more reliable.
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My question exactly. What's the point of doing the swap if you aren't getting the DOHC MIVEC head from the 1.6L 4G92. The one from the Cyborg and Astis?