4B11/4B12 comparison
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A lancer in the 14's with bolt ons? I don't think that the bolt ons really do much besides making your car sound more aggressive. There's not much power gain for the 4B12 engines with bolt ons from what I've seen. For a big increase, you'll have to go turbo. The worst is that the 4B12 was only release in North America so there won't be as much aftermarket as the 4B11, but I read somewhere a while back that we apparently have the same engine as the Dodge Caliber SRT-4 Turbo engine. I don't know what's interchangable, but maybe you can look into that route.
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A lancer in the 14's with bolt ons? I don't think that the bolt ons really do much besides making your car sound more aggressive. There's not much power gain for the 4B12 engines with bolt ons from what I've seen. For a big increase, you'll have to go turbo. The worst is that the 4B12 was only release in North America so there won't be as much aftermarket as the 4B11, but I read somewhere a while back that we apparently have the same engine as the Dodge Caliber SRT-4 Turbo engine. I don't know what's interchangable, but maybe you can look into that route.
Yea, just looked up intel on the comparison between the caliber and GTS and definately come from the same developer of engines, the caliber SRT4 rocks a Mitsubishi turbo (TD04HL4S-20) and DVVT. which from the bat gives it 285 HP close to what the evo puts out, still trying to figure out how it manages to push that as a dodge but a Turbo Charged GTS barely gets to 250.
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Yea, just looked up intel on the comparison between the caliber and GTS and definately come from the same developer of engines, the caliber SRT4 rocks a Mitsubishi turbo (TD04HL4S-20) and DVVT. which from the bat gives it 285 HP close to what the evo puts out, still trying to figure out how it manages to push that as a dodge but a Turbo Charged GTS barely gets to 250.
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open deck
http://www.team-integra.net/sections...933144af96.jpg
semi-closed deck
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...06/4b11014.jpg
closed deck
http://images.hondatuningmagazine.co...dart_block.jpg
look at the difference in cylinder walls. the semi-closed deck has supports along the outside of the cylinder wall to handle more power, whereas the lancer doesnt (first pic). closed decks are the beasts of blocks, ill let you see why from the pic......
if lancers had the same block as evos, i would probably still be turboed and on even more boost than 10 psi lol
http://www.team-integra.net/sections...933144af96.jpg
semi-closed deck
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q...06/4b11014.jpg
closed deck
http://images.hondatuningmagazine.co...dart_block.jpg
look at the difference in cylinder walls. the semi-closed deck has supports along the outside of the cylinder wall to handle more power, whereas the lancer doesnt (first pic). closed decks are the beasts of blocks, ill let you see why from the pic......
if lancers had the same block as evos, i would probably still be turboed and on even more boost than 10 psi lol
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haha no no.....the fact that its closed deck doesnt produce more power. the fact that its closed deck, means it can TAKE more power that you throw at it.
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For that then you might as well go with the 4B11 block from AMS, it'll prolly bolt up easier to you tranny than the SRT-4's block.



