Speedcorp.com has some of the same parts as rrm and for cheaper and for free shipping. And I'm in the same boat. I would love an evo but can afford the insurance on it. So I'm sticking with my 02 es. There are a few good threads with a lot of info and list of different sites.

 

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awesome thanks

 

if you look on craigslist and ebay and find one cheap with high mileage you can get a jdm 4g63 for pretty cheap 15 to 2500 for the whole setup motor, tranny and harness so iether way you can get an evo pretty cheap the only reason ive stayed on my 03 es is because i didnt do any of this research before i bought it and by the time i did i already had forges in it and a new ecu ive also decided to buy a nissan 240sx they are the us's universal car 5 diferent jdm motors can be dropped in it with minimal mods having to be made and its rwd witch ive been a drifter since i new wut a car was but google 4g63 or jdm motors and you'll see wut i mean good luck yo

 

I hated to read this thread, because I knew I'd have to comment.

1st, you won't see power unless you turbo (which can be done custom for about 2.5 to 3k)...in the 200hp range when all is said and done at 10psi

2nd, you can't find a running evo for less than 12k, why would you even say that? Blown headgasket, you can't find for less than 8k...nor would it matter cause it's going to cost you a ton of money to get a new engine in. Lancer is already owned, could sell it for 3k, maybe 5k...so no, you can't just say get an evo.

Also...final thought. Lancer with forged internals, clutch/LSD, turbo kit and tuning could be done TOTAL for about 8k, and you'd have a sticky lil ~350hp car. That car would be faster than a stock evo I'm guessing, for much less. If you guy wants to work on his lancer, let him, if you want to sell an evo for 6k, call me, I'll buy it today....but please don't do N/A mods, they won't net you much HP.

 

+1^ I have $7k invested in my car (thats including buying the car ) Thats everything not just car and turbo thats the paint job, springs, aftermarket exterior parts etc. I guarentee from a roll my car is faster than a stock evo even without forged internals

 

naw i DO want an EVO, but i love my lancer es and as was stated earlier you can mod one to be faster than a stock EVO. im starting out with just the intake and exaust upgrades, but i do plan on forged parts along with intercooler and Turbo at some point(just got to get the money first). thanks to everyone for all the advice

 

If you plan on going turbo, you're wasting you money with intake and exhaust...

 

at least with intake you are...exhaust not quite as much of a waste, since it's pretty necessary once turbo'd....but exhaust being upgraded without increase in intake air you can see reduced mpg and power in various scenarios...and you are loud/farty.

 

that's what i mean, with a turbo you'd be better off with 2.5" or 3" turbo-back, the more flow the better. But even with cold air intake, P&P intake manifold or even custom intake manifold, and a ported head, you still don't need as much of a free flowing exhaust as you would with a turbo. So if you increase flow up top on the intake side, any exhaust work is wasted money when you go turbo...cause if you go big N/A it's gonna suck.

 

I think we have honda to blame for the "intake/exhaust = 25hp" mentality. Every day I go drive, I am amazed at how well the lancer's engine takes to being boosted. 9psi doubles horsepower, and still my stock clutch holds it, gas millage is unchanged except when I floor it constantly, and tuning solutions are prevalent.

 

A 2.25" exhaust is the Magic number if you're sticking N/A. Too large of an exhaust, and you risk losing too much back pressure which in turn leads to pretty crappy performance. Building off the quote, exhaust upgrades are negligable unless you at the bare minimum upgrade to an aftermarket intake and header. You can have all the flow you want, but it won't even matter if the the same amount of air is coming in.

Even with an upgraded intake and exhaust, there's going to be constricting points where air flow is going to be hindered due to variations in the inlet/outlet of the motor. For example, you may have an upgraded intake, but the throttle body is going to restrict some of that added air flow. While I'm not saying that N/A upgrades are completely useless, you'll only see slightly better throttle response and a minute' increase of power in the powerband rather than advertised horsepower increases.

Before you start investing in parts, decide whether you're going to stay N/A or go turbo. Depending on which route you go, determines how you approach your build in regards to parts. I stayed N/A and upgraded to a DOHC head. I've also happen to put in more money in Aftermarket parts than the cost of my car, only to have about 60% of the power of going Turbo. Proper planning will help prevent unneccessary spending in the future

The DOHC dilemma

 

well, i do want to go turbo. but let me just ask this question, but i think it may be stupid. If i put a turbo on my car, what can i do without having to upgrade to forged internals? also would i need a better clutch and flywheel, since im running a automatic transmission. And could i still put a cold-air intake and bigger exaust on my car? if so what do you recommend?

 

Before people start flaming you, an Automatic Transmission doesn't have a clutch or flywheel. A/Ts use something called a Torque Converter (looks like a giant donut). You can get your A/T rebuilt/strengthed (It isn't cheap) to accomodate any high HP upgrades or strenuous driving, but other than that, there aren't really any A/T mods out there. You can also do the good ole' Automatic to Manual conversion, but thats a whole other monster and can cost as much as your turbo upgrade.

I'm an N/A guy, but if I recall correctly, a Lancer can safely handle up to 9 lbs of boost or roughly 250 HP before forged internals are extremely recommended. Turbo guys, feel free to correct me on that