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Old Mar 18, 2005 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by elpedro
ok, i just installed my ground kit based on the diagram shown above. I connected the neg on the battery and daisy-chained it to the right side chassis, to the other engine hoist bolt on the head (the one without the lift eyelet), to the transmission bell housing, to the intake manifold, then to the left side chassis. Did i miss any spots?
Did you run the cable after the left side chassis over the valve cover, grounding the valve cover and then back to the negitive? I said that before I think. But it makes for a better gound. It's not just daisy chained but it is a loop.

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PS- as far as all of the places to ground to I don't feel like I have the right to tell anyone what Tyler grounded as he has done the research on the grounding points for full effect. It's not my information to give out. All I can tell you is that my kit from Ground Fusion is effective.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 08:33 AM
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Sup Fox, as you know I am just 5 miles from you and I was wondering if I could just take my car to Tyler and if he could hook it up about to install my new bored fuel rail and waiting for my exhaust, intake manifold, headers, and then finally the stage 2 turbo and I think this mod will help me out in the long run. thnaks for your help and the cool stuff you are able to find
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 09:14 AM
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This is similar to making sure you have a good ground with an amp, if you have a good ground then overall the car is going to run more efficient if the components are not struggling to get power. Im not saying that a grounding kit = hp, but i could def see it improving gas mileage a little bit and idle better
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 01:23 PM
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... and his wires are crimped not soldered for a much better connection. Again that's Ground Fusion I can't stress this enough Buy from him.

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wait wait wait, are you saying a crimped connection is BETTER than a soldered one?

your definately going to have to explain this one
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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wait wait wait, are you saying a crimped connection is BETTER than a soldered one?

your definately going to have to explain this one
Tyler explained this to me by saying that the crimper he uses puts 400 lbs of pressure on the wire and the connector... it is so strong it practically fuses the copper connector and wire. It's all on his website. Check the signature...

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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 02:45 PM
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Sup Fox, as you know I am just 5 miles from you and I was wondering if I could just take my car to Tyler and if he could hook it up about to install my new bored fuel rail and waiting for my exhaust, intake manifold, headers, and then finally the stage 2 turbo and I think this mod will help me out in the long run. thnaks for your help and the cool stuff you are able to find
Chris
You'll have to coordinate with Tyler if you want him to put a system on for you... but he could just make a kit for you and you can put it on yourself. It seemed pretty easy from just watching him do it. I'm not even sure if he has made the instructions yet. Shoot him an email and tell him you spoke with me.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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Thanks think I might get the ground kit through mail the way the weather is getting I might enjoy a 30 minute project under the hood lol gonna have alot of those days pretty soon. Thanks again
Chris
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 06:00 AM
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i might get a set when i go to d.c.

i want the same thing in blue, and i anyway have to go to northern v.a.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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I bought a grounding kit off ebay for $15.00, kit looks good, made by option racing. I still need to learn how to connect it all.
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Centrylancer
i might get a set when i go to d.c.

i want the same thing in blue, and i anyway have to go to northern v.a.
He'll send you the kit with instructions. It's a thirty minute install easy but well worth the effort and money. It dresses up the engine really nice and preforms as advertised! And he does several colors other then the standerd red, blue and black... so check out his website in my sig and email him. This isn't one of those knock off brands either. This is quality stuff.

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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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I emailed Tyler today to see what's up with the kit. This is what he said,

Originally Posted by Tyler
I will produce this kit and hope to have it ready to ship shortly.

I do take paypal and the kit will be 74.99 plus shipping. If they show up
with cash and want me to put it on it will be $50.

Take care.

Thanks

Tyler
So if you want him to put it on for you he will charge 50 bucks! Any of you guys that are in the Northern VA, MD, DC area get in on this!

Attached are all of the colors offered and pics of my kit are on the first page of this thread if you guys need to see it again... If you have any questions just ask and I'll try to answer as best I can. Or go to Ground Fusions site.

Fox
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 03:33 AM
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E-mailed Tyler yesterday very quick response anyway this is the info he gave me: It will be $74.99 plus shipping. Its not quite shippable yet. I have to complete the install instruction.I will let you know once its completed. I expect that to be in the next 2
weeks.

Thanks

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Well I am going to order my kit liked his response very quick and to the point no BS. I have mailed other performance sites and I might "might get a response in like 2 months. Thanks Fox you found a winner. ( Since you mailed him about an actual install I might just take it up that way) Again thanks

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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by nditechusmc
Well I am going to order my kit liked his response very quick and to the point no BS. I have mailed other performance sites and I might "might get a response in like 2 months. Thanks Fox you found a winner. ( Since you mailed him about an actual install I might just take it up that way) Again thanks

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Yeah, Tyler is a great guy to work with. You should drive up to his place and have him install it. For fifty bucks it's a steal! From where we are it's only about an hour and twenty minutes to his place in MD. You have to pay attention when looking for the road he lives off of, cause it's pretty hard to find.

If you do get to go up there you might even see his IS300... when I went he was having the interior door panals covered in carbon fiber so I didn't get to see it.

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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 03:11 AM
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This is a quote from pathstar1 from this site: http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/dir...index=.ef21d38

"What do grounding kits do? Well, that depends ;-). If you look under the hood you will see the battery is mounted on the body and grounded to it and the engine. The alternator is mounted on the engine and therefore grounded to it. There is usually a strap from the engine to the body (ground). Often, all these grounds are at different places on the body. Now, think of what flows in these ground paths, current wise.
Headlamps - 7 to 14 Amps
Engine - 6 Amps
Radio/stereo system - 5-15 Amps
Taillamps/instrument lamps - 3 Amps
Battery charging current - 10 to 40 Amps
It all adds up - say 20 to 30 Amps peak. Now pass that through the body with, say, 0.1 ohm resistance to the alternator (the source of all that current). The voltage drop would be current times resistance - say 20 X 0.1 = 2 volts. Not much you think? Well, consider what the ECU does. It measures the O2 sensor output and acts on changes in that voltage of 0.05 V or so. The ECU also relies on other inputs from sensors and acts on level changes of 1 Volt and less.

What the grounding kits try to do is minimize the differences in ground potential relative to some "standard" point in the car so the ECU has reliable input. This has improved operation on several cars. My 1993 RX-7 had a terrible "hesitation", cured by a grounding improvement.

Why don't the manufacturers install such improved grounding when they make the vehicle? First, they may not have the time to find there is a problem, what with production timelines. Second, the solution often involves large expensive cable, that may require labour intensive installation. It increases weight and cost, perhaps putting them out of their target range. The vehicle may work "well enough" without the proper grounding."

Thought that might help.
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Old Mar 25, 2005 | 03:20 AM
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I installed the kit yesterday, and I noticed a real difference from the moment I turned the engine over.

The idle quality was apparent right away. The lights don't dim as much when my system is hitting hard. Overall this was a good mod, and well worth the money and effort. I also noticed the car accelerating a bit smoother. I have not tested the fuel efficiency, but I will keep an eye on it.
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