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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:13 PM
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Hmmmm....when I get the money, and the time, I might just go with the emanage, but I'll probably find a shop to help me out, as well as get as much diagnostic gauges as possible since I'm new to this whole "actual tuning" thing.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:48 PM
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I'm in the same boat you are ambystom - I don't have any tuning experience, and I don't want a piggyback - been there, done that, never worked. I guess I'll start shopping around for a emanage.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 05:56 PM
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The piggyback works fine for me. Where I live the winters are cold, I just reset the ecu in the winter and in the summer. PB doesn't give me any trouble this way..
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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Start reading about tuning.... Go under yahoo and type in tuning and various other phrases that have to do with it. You'll be suprised how much you learn.... if you really want to learn about it.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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well that's fine for you OZ N/A guys, but i have already spoken to Greddy and they are in no hurry to make anything for the Mivec engines, so i'm going full stand alone and that's gonna solve my issues once and for all
i'm sure greddy will change their tune when they realize all of mitsu's new performance cars are going to incorportate mivec
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by ModernRacer
well that's fine for you OZ N/A guys, but i have already spoken to Greddy and they are in no hurry to make anything for the Mivec engines, so i'm going full stand alone and that's gonna solve my issues once and for all
It's gonna make more issues than it'll solve. But good luck

and statements about it doesn't work for turbo is false as well since lots of people with turbo cars use it. Sorry it isn't yet compatible with the Mivec. I'm sure it's coming soon. They update like every two months.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:23 PM
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Eboy, where do you go for updates or does it do it automatically? Didnt even install mine yet.
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by smokedmustang
Alternatives to piggyback.........lets see, there is Horseback, Camelback,Donkeyback........
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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 10:09 PM
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thats really suprising that it doesnt work with MIVEC considering eManage is truely a japanese product... and A LOT of mitsus have MIVEC engine options. You all probably need to just get into it and find some guys overseas that are running it and can help.

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Old Jun 2, 2005 | 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by frchgl123
The piggyback works fine for me. Where I live the winters are cold, I just reset the ecu in the winter and in the summer. PB doesn't give me any trouble this way..
Where do you live? The problem I have is during the winter I drive my car to school everyday, sometimes at 7:00 am, and I really wouldn't have the time to deal with a loopy idle, and the learning period associated with unplugging the battery.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Been looking into the eManage. Cheapest I've been able to find it new is $265 shipped from ebay. There was a guy on here who sold his to boeturbolancer for $225 shipped.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 12:18 AM
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mohdparts.com for stuff and to get the new firmware
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:55 AM
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I would just do a lot of research for the tuning part, if u have a laptop it seems that greddy has made the e-manage very user friendly. Plus what u can do, because our cars biggest problem is that we run so rich, so you can kind of play around with the a/f ratio do something simple like that to learn whats going on. I BELIEVE (somebody corrrect me if I am wrong) that you can kind of play with a/f and not screw anything up assuming that u have common sense and can tell when u have gone too lean and what not. Just have to make sure u dont lean out too much or run too rich. But if just that a/f stuff confuses u then I would defenitely let a shop tune it for u or atleast help u.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 05:56 AM
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sorry I should specify by "not screwing things up" I mean short term. Now if u lean out too much then long term u could be looking a complete engine failure.
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Old Jun 3, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Can you not dyno tune your stock ECU? I was understandign that you could.
To me that would be the best option.
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