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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 07:31 AM
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Sweet video, GP! Glad to see you back.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 08:06 AM
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FINALLY saw the vid... damn it took me a bit to view it. Not the most computer savy...

I can see those iffy areas when you were doing the tv-spot splices. I've seen the real spots though so i knew what was going on.

Ross makes a great point about being individuals and doing something different with the cars. I think this is why a lot of guys do custom kits.

I would have like to see more of the lancer though... basically all we got to see was a reving engine. I've seen the other cars on this kit but i'm more interested in what the lancer can do... the dyno of 167wtq makes me wonder what the quarter will be like. I'm thinking you'll pull high 14's to low 15's on that setup.

Good stuff though... welcome back and keep us updated on your progress both on and off the track!
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by OZLancer1
I'd really like to drive an sc lancer. I've driving turbo and I'd love to take an sc'd one for a spin just to see the differences. I don't think anyone near me has sc though
probably not too much different, although a touch slower in top end (plus i'm auto, so yeah)

its pretty fun to drive around town in 3rd (instead of "D"), i'm almost always near or in boost, so I just stomp the gas and go. did that last night and almost had a little mishap with torque steer cause I wasn't paying attention. good thing the road was vacant LOL

yeah, stock internals, boosting 11psi for now.

I would include more lancer specific stuff, but I just don't have the time. the dyno was nextgens, the night rpm/mph shot was mine, and I think the bov shot was nextgens' too.

here are some links to the original vids that I clipped from in case anyone wants to see them:

http://www.rippmods.com/documents/im.../05upgrade.WMV

http://www.rippmods.com/documents/im...EXSHOW100k.wmv

http://www.rippmods.com/documents/im...s/101_1316.MOV


thanks for the comments guys
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:35 AM
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Hay Green,
I got your Email, I will not be able to make the trip. CASH flow is not happening being that I am having Bath Fitters remod my bathroom.
Oh, Cool Video and Welcome Back.
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 09:40 AM
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your boosting 11 psi on stock internals? is this not the same as 11 psi on a turbo or are you just really well tuned?

p.s. good to have you back
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 10:18 AM
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11psi on SC for lancer would be comparable to 8-9psi turbo'd. In power and more specifically heat.

The SC's Inlet Air Temp's(IAT) are way lower than a turbochargers... they can boost higher due to this with less worry of detonation. Stock internals have been pushed to 12-13psi on lancer daily and found that right after that things break... this was on a turbo application so i'd think SC could do a little more. Once they equal out in hp things will break...
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Old Oct 18, 2005 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kc2Buk
Hay Green,
I got your Email, I will not be able to make the trip. CASH flow is not happening being that I am having Bath Fitters remod my bathroom.
Oh, Cool Video and Welcome Back.
that cool dude, I was planning on going but work came up and I can't make it either. sucks, its going to be cool

n1te, not its not technically the same as 11psi on a turbo for a few reasons, but yes, I am really well tuned, running somewhat rich for safety (as its a generic tune) plus the methanol boost cooler acts like the alky injection so popular in the evos: it gives the extra boost while providing a ton of safety

yes, sc boost temp are lower than turbos, so we could push it more, but we aren't for right now, not until I upgrade some stuff. another reason why sc 11psi is different than turbo 11psi is power yielded, turbo numbers normally being higher especially in smaller cars. 11psi is different because of cfm rate (depending on size of compressor) but also where your measuring it at. remember turbos have to push through the FMIC so you get pressure loss across it(hopefully not too much depending what IC you decide to use). so while you have your setup for 11psi or so, boost gauge will read 9psi or something like that (this normally happens, look at the most recent dyno from a turbo, the guy was running like 9psi)

bottom line: sc 11psi does not necessarily equal turbo 11psi, making it hard to do an apples to apples comparison
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by GreenPsycho
Remember turbos have to push through the FMIC so you get pressure loss across it(hopefully not too much depending what IC you decide to use). so while you have your setup for 11psi or so, boost gauge will read 9psi or something like that (this normally happens, look at the most recent dyno from a turbo, the guy was running like 9psi)
Since most turbo's measure the boost pressure at the intake manifold so that they can read both boost and vacuum on their gauge this statement isn't very accurate.

While there is some pressure drop across the intercooler and in the piping itself it's nothing dramatic... if it is your setup isn't correct.

That being said CFM rates do dramatically effect the differences... most turbochargers will always outflow an SC. Basically due to the fact that the SC is driven off the engine at a certain rpm. That rpm is never more than the motor can take and is also why the SC has such a bigger compressor than a turbo. Most turbo's spin around, or in excess, 100krpm's. Don't think any car engine will ever achieve that

Agian though you can't do a comparison on SC's with TC definatives... for a good versus discussion do a search... there are many posts about it. Otherwise this post will turn into a VS thread which isn't what it was intended for.

You can always pm a guru for more difinative info and search. Trust me the info is out there in full.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:34 AM
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No more posts that include TC vs. SC comparisons, please. We can start a new thread about that.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Blacksheepdj
No more posts that include TC vs. SC comparisons, please. We can start a new thread about that.
Isn't that what i said... or were you just emphasising that point?

Originally Posted by Boeturbolancer
... for a good versus discussion do a search... there are many posts about it. Otherwise this post will turn into a VS thread which isn't what it was intended for.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:07 PM
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Of course if anyone wants accurate or specific information concerning ripps sds or supercharger questions in general, feel free to PM or email me and I'll help you out.

In the meantime, people should check out this for general information on gearing: http://science.howstuffworks.com/gear-ratio1.htm

the pulley setup functions exactly the same in terms of rotational speed between varying pulley sizes. In fact, thats what is kinda neat about RIPP's sds, if you want to go from 7psi to 11psi, just swap out a pulley. need 20psi? change pulley sizes and your set to go, no problem. It all comes down to pulley ratios and rotation.

For instance, the animation is 2:1 ratio. Translate that to car engines, say the engine is @ 6k, the supercharger pulley would be spinning at twice making 12k rpm to the shaft, more @ the compressor because of gearing. I dont know the ratio between crank pulley and ripp's shaft pulley off hand, but I would guess @ least 4:1 or so. No need for a high revving engine, thats just foolish.
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Old Oct 19, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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Not laying blame, Boe. I'm just saying. It was getting OT. I got complaints.
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