no....when u accelerate momentum moves back...so all the weight off the car shifts back giving more grip to the rear tires. which is why spoilers are put on rwd cars...to put more downforce on the car to increase traction. so rwd has more power to the rear tires...which have more traction than the front so rwd is better.

 

AWD does launch better initially because of better grip... say maybe the first 50 feet? Then what? You will now have less torque to the rwd wheels the rest of the 1/4 miles than a RWD car.

That is why you see good 0-60 numbers, but not as good 1/4 mile numbers.

 

I think RWD cars are the premier weapon of choice amongst drag racer factions because AWD setups are penalized by sanctioning bodies with heavy weight ballast additions much as in road racing. Everybody in these ranks knows that traction is the biggest foe of a powerful drag car. These guys can probably light them up past the halfway mark if they weren't careful!

In North America, part or all of this decision is political in nature. The big three do not make a sporty high horsepower AWD car... the win on Sunday sell on Monday theorem goes right out the window and so to protect their interest, they discourage the use of AWD to such an extent that it goes the way of the dino.

At least this is the situation in road racing but I would expect a penalty along a similar vein for our drag buddies <-- sounds wrong but isn't!

 

Thats also why Civics and other FWD cars need gigantic GT style spoilers, so they can keep those rear wheels on the ground.

 

Could someone explain what Michaelk is talking about when he talks about these recurring rebuilds? Also, if spoilers are for RWD cars than does the Evo need a spoiler on it? Wouldn't the evo be better than if the engine was in the back rather than in the front? The only thing I'm worried about is pulling next to a stoplight in my 600hp Evo than a ricer, with the entire spoiler, sticker, and etc., pulls up next to me and than beats me. What are the chances of that happening? Sorry to those that are mad because I am kinda straying away from the main topic here! I don't feel like making a new thread for just some little discussing with only like 5 replies, when I could just do it here and get it over with.

 

rwd cars have faster 0-60 times than awd cars. and the evo has a spoiler probly for looks mostly. but a spoiler on a awd car is still beneficial since most of the power is giong to the rear wheels. awd cars arent split 50/50. usually itll be like 70 percent of the power to the rear and 30 percent to the front. so a spoiler will add more traction to the rear where most of the power is but will sacrifice some from the front...but the payoff is greater

 

The rebuilds I'm talking about mean mostly only new pistons let's say every 10,000 miles. Then the engine has to be set-up again. But running that high power there's obviously more chance of breaking something too.

 

There is a lot of mis-information when it comes to GTR tuning. This 1000bhp business is not what everybody thinks. As MichaelK mentioned there are a few around, one of the most famous(and fastest) being the Veislide R32. But people have to understand that these are demo cars...hence no expense spared, rebuild every 2 days...that kind of stuff.
The RB26 is a very strong engine. By using twin GT2530s you can reach 600bhp....but you have to realise that this is not so cheap...and that if you are after reliability loads of parts have to be changed. The normal engine block is good to around 650bhp....above this you'll have to use the N1 race block. Pistons and conrods are ok to about 520-550 and will handle no more than 1.2 kPa of boost (with a metal head gasket).
In comparison to Evos GTRs are pretty different. Think about it. Evos have very good throttle response and almost no lag since you have 4 cylinders blowing into a single turbo charger. In GTRs you have 6 cylinders blowing into 2 (pretty small and boost-delicate) turbochargers. You have pretty good boost & torque from idle to 3000rpm, but the best part of the rev range is between 4000-and 8200rpm. So pretty different to Evos where torque is on hand pretty low. If you start bolting on massive turbos things change and power delivery becomes quite peaky.....and the argument just goes on and on

Oh BTW the HKS EVO7 has just managed to break the Tsukuba track record. I think it managed a low 57 or high 56

 

Is there any info online regarding the HKS Evo7? Specs and mods, etc..

Still trying to find info on the Mines Evo7.

 

Take a look at this Skyline
http://www.turboclub.com/makes/nis/S...33/Default.htm

0-300kph (approx 186MPH) in 13.00 seconds!!

 

You simply cannot make this statement because there are so many factors that you haven't addressed.

How about specifying power/weight ratio, weight distribution, driver, gearing, tires, altitude, launch methodology... just to name a few!

A mid RWD 70's Maverick will lose to an AWD EVO in the same way that a RWD McLaren will walk over an AWD USDM WRX.

 

I forgot to mention that the Viper that ran 11.4 seconds in the quarter mile also has 777bhp and 953.1 nm. If the Evo only needs 556bhp to run 11.1 seconds in the quarter mile. Wouldn't that mean the AWD is better than RWD? The 556bhp Evo runs the quarter, and the to 0-60 faster than the Viper. The Evo even has less horses.

 

In all driving aspects yeah AWD is better than RWD. But look at some 800+hp Skyline when it lauches, its AWD (modified ofc) electronic system is able to put down up to %100 power to the rear wheels, and ofc this is for a reason, better launching. So if your looking at 0-60 times, a car that is able put down all that power the rear wheels will make a better time. Look at the torque and weight? well as Billy said, there are a lot of factors to add. But if u make everything the same except the drive system. RWD would out do a AWD in sprints.

 

if there was an awd evo 7 and an rwd evo 7....everything equal except the drivetrain... the RWD WILL ALWAYS WIN IN A DRAG RACE. given that the drivers are equal.

 

oops...plucky got it. i didnt read his post till after i replied