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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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Evo mod potential compared to Skyline??

I've read that a skyline GT-R can be modded up to be 1000 horses and up. I've also read that they can be modded to beat a Hayabusa. Can an Evo be modded to do these as well? Do any of you know what it would take or is it even possible with an Evo?
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 10:05 AM
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skylines are inline 6 right? evos are inline 4....the inline 6 would definently be able to run more power...more reliably.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 11:49 AM
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Yes the skyline's are inline 6. plus u can Twin Turbo a skyline and they are also AWD. when i was at hot import nights in Del Mar i got there about 2 hours before it started and they were still setting up when i ran across a yellow skyline i takled to the owner he showed me his Twin Turbo's and his NOS hook up. he told me that he was runnin 800+HP at the wheels. (dont know if its true but it was still TT and AWD so it will kick some ***) but it does have the potential to get to that HP.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Depends how reliable you want your engine. R34's can be taken to 800hp without too much effort (and should still run reliably). However, get to 1000+hp and you'll be wanting an engine rebuild every few thousand miles...

R34 GTR: 2.6 inline 6 twin turbo, 320bhp standard, 700-800bhp in a "reliable" road tune

Evo VII: 2.0 inline 4 single turbo, 300bhp standard, 400-500bhp in a "reliable" road tune

Max I've heard of for an R34 is around 1500bhp (single turbo), max for the Evo is around 650bhp (single turbo - Jun Super Lemon). Both of those use high flow single turbo's, so expect plenty of turbo-lag.

Sky's come with a twin turbo setup as stock, most japanese power tuners ditch those for a high flow single as there are more complications with a twin turbo setup.

I may be off with the technical specs, I'm not an expert by any means...

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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 05:19 PM
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The Skyline is far more tunable engine wise than the Evo. Although I have to say that 700-800bhp needs extensive mods even for a Skyline. You're looking at a full engine rebuild with new turbos or in this case probably only one. Okitenik knows a lot about Skylines, he'll be able to give the exact specs for the different stages. The most bhp I heard of with a Skyline engine was a bit over 1000bhp, the Top Secret Skyline, although I think several companies have broken the 1000 bhp barrier now.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 07:06 PM
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So all of you are saying that because the Skyline is an Inline 6 that is why it is more tunable to higher horses. Is there at least anyway to get an Evo to run 600 horses and still be in a "reliable" road tune? That is what I'm hoping to get out of my evo when I get one. Anyway, Do any of you know what a 1000 hp Skyline would run the in quarter and what an 600 hp Evo would run in the quarter?
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 09:48 PM
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You can get 600 relatively reliable horses, but that also features quite frequent rebuilts. I mean in the DSM scene people extract more than 800bho out of the 4G63 os it'll be possible in the Evo too. No idea about the 1/4 mile times as I don't care about that too much.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 10:12 PM
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1/4 mile times. I'm not realy sure of the accuracy of Gran turismo 3 but i have a R34 that is AWD and 1057hp, it runs a 9.8, which seems to be about right considering it weighs about 3300lbs. The EVO 7 on GT3 with 556hp runs an 11.1. These are the 1/4 mile time i would have suggested even with out the game. weight reduction, and turbo size is going to play the biggest factor in have the fastest evo on the road and strip, driver plays a very important roll as well. You might be about to drive my civic and run a 14.6 and i can only get 14.9, driver does matter.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 10:29 PM
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I think a non gutted gt-r is around 3800 lbs - 4000 lbs. So the evo does not have to make nearly as hp as a skyline to be as fast as one. Also I think with an evo one you start pressing 450+ hp you are bordering on having to get a racing transmission as the stock set up will probably break if you push it too hard with all the torque you would be making.
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 10:48 PM
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Originally posted by edogg23
I think a non gutted gt-r is around 3800 lbs - 4000 lbs.
The EVO VII is that heavy? According to Subaru the WRX weighs 3085lbs. So and EVO
VII is 800lbs+- heavier?
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Old Feb 3, 2002 | 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by funcar

The EVO VII is that heavy? According to Subaru the WRX weighs 3085lbs. So and EVO
VII is 800lbs+- heavier?
He is refering to the R34, not the EVO.
The VII is a few lbs lighter than the WRX.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:31 AM
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A Evo with 556hp runs only 11.1 in the quarter mile. I thought that it would be a little faster in the quarter. At www.evoblast.com, he has an Evo VI that has 430bhp with 520NM and runs 0-62mph in 3.6 seconds. I go to Supercars.net and see that the 2000 Dodge TNT King Snake Viper run 0-60 in 3.6 and runs the quarter in 11.4. I would have thought that 600 hp Evo would run the quarter in low 10s or high 9s since it is AWD and have now problem with traction at launch. MichaelK, rebuilds are you talking about?
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:46 AM
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From what I understand, AWD cars have less launch capability than a RWD car. RWD cars can launch fastest because all the power is going to the rear instead of being distributed to all four wheels. Look at all the professional road cars, you will see RWD cars always.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:49 AM
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well first off...different cars need different amount of hp to run the same quarter mile. some cars have a lot more drag than others...for example the supra...has the aerodynamics of a semi truck...it sucks...havent u heard of the joke what does a 300, 400, 500, and 600 hp supra have in common? a 12 second timeslip. its pretty true too. so jus cuz a viper with 800 hp runs a 11 second quarter mile doesnt mean an evo will run the same time with equal hp. and btw awd is slower than rwd cars. rwd cars launch better because 100 percent of the power is to the real wheels. the rear wheels is what does most of the accelerating. so awd is jus takin power from the rear wheel and puttin it up front where it doesnt do as much good.
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Old Feb 4, 2002 | 01:55 AM
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I thought that AWD cars had better launches than both RWD and FWD. All 4 wheels are going so you wouldn't just stand there spinning out, and just launch. I thought with RWD that at a launch that you would stand there for a while the car is trying to get traction.
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