and billy ur examples are not even making any sense. well duh some piece of crap rwd cars from the 70s would lose to an 2003 awd turbod vehicle. i figured ppl would understand that i was making that statement assuming the cars were equal. IE. a bmw 330i and a 330xi. same exact car...jus different drivetrains.

 

I don't understand what Billy was talking about the 70s Maverick and all that. Could someone explain it? Than could either of you tell me why the Evo is faster than the Viper I talked?

 

Let's get back to the main subject of the thread anyway (to those who are still reading anyway). Is the Skyline overrated? The skyline is heavier, and the 700+ horse skylines still need to be heavily modded. The evo is lighter and doesn't need as much horsepower. To get an Evo to 600, than would you need as much modding as you would to get a 700bhp Skyline? Would a 600bhp Evo be able to match or even beat a 700bhp skyline?

 

I think the costs will be about the same to get an Evo to 600 and a Skyline to 700, maybe the Skyline will be a little cheaper. In topspeed a Skyline with 700bhp will beat a 600bhp Evo, given that the gear and axle ratios are exactly the same. Now, when it comes to driving fast around a circuit I would say the Evo will win, but obviously depending on how fast the circuit is. The faster it is, the more it favours the Skyline and the other way round.

 

Modding all cars is bloody expensive business....so I'll just leave it at that.
Evos tend to be quicker on the twisty bits as it takes less skill to get the power down as it would in a tail-happy GTR, plus evos are lighter, have shorter gears and permanent 4wd. GTRs are built for faster circuits ....even though companies like Mine's have succeeded in building some pretty mean and responsive GTRs. To give a pritty graphic example the Mine's R34 GTR demo car runs a few tenths behind the HKS Evo 7 at Tsukuba...and it held the record before kansai service shaved a bit more off

I would just put it down to preference. People have different tastes.....personally I just can't resist the silky smooth RB26 of the last generation of GTRs.

otaking....for info on the Mine's Evo 7 try http://www.mines-wave.co.jp
They E7 demo car has no engine modifications except a Mines ECU &panel filter. It does however have a pretty good suspension kit plus a few chassis mods and stiffening here and there. It is pretty damn quick!

 

So the 600bhp Evo would only lose to a 700bhp Skyline because it has a higher top speed, or is it because it will reach higher speeds faster? So all of you are saying that Evo is better at turns and Skyline is better at straightline. So although people say the Skyline is the "King of Japanese Cars" than are they overrating it is, and is it that much better than all the Japanese cars? Does the Evo even come in at a close second or maybe even match but has different advantages?

 

Thanks okitenik. I checked their site not to long ago for info on their Evo7. All I really know so far is what exhaust they are using and what you just said. I was considering their Ecu but am curious how it compares to others.

Hopefully the Pro Titan will be available by the time the Evo7 is released in the US.

 

Is no one going to answer my last few questions?

 

I will. I have no idea.

But I'm interested in a knowledgeable response as well.

 

the 600 hp evo will lose to the 700 hp skyline because 1. the skyline has 100 more hp. and 2. the skyline is rwd. of course this is in a drag race. on a track the evo would have the advantage since awd offers better handling around corners. anyways for whatever reason the skyline is called king of japanese cars or wahtever...is jus some sorta marketing gimmic. i mean cmon like a skyline would beat a nsx and that car is japanese.

 

Yes, a Skyline can beat an NSX. And the Skyline has AWD also. And as the Skyline is a heavier car, I'm actually quite sure that a 600hp Evo would beat a 700hp Skyline in a drag race, too.

 

Your answers:

The Skyline and Evo are different cars and when it comes to raw power and top speed, I the Skyline would win. But when it comes to handling and track racing capabilities I think the Evo has the edge. It all depends on what track and what conditions. I don't think you can rank cars unless you have very strict criteria.

 

Great, Thanks for answering my questions.

 

Hey everyone,

I'm new to the board in anticipation of the Evo's arrival in the U.S. I'am hoping to gather some more information about these awesome cars. I've been apart of the DSM community here in the states for two years and I've enjoyed the awesome potential of the 4G63. I can't wait to slip behind the wheel of my Evo in the near future.

As for the debate on AWD Vs FWD Vs RWD launches. I think a big part of the advantage is in the drivers hands. However on the track when racing tires come it to play the advantage of AWD is greatly reduced and factors like drive train inertia and direct line of power can sway the advantage to both FWD and RWD cars. For instance an average HP loss through the tranny in a U.S. spec AWD DSM cars is about 15%. I'm sure the values for most FWD and RWD cars is less and would depend on the engine being inline or transverse. I have seen many average FWD and RWD cars knock on the doors of well tuned AWD 4G63 cars. Which leads me to believe that AWD can get you pretty far ahead but we'll see waht happens next.

James