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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 08:12 PM
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I am not going to try to change my own timing belt .. .
The engine willl never start again if I mess with it...LOL
But I am proud of you that can!


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Old Feb 20, 2006 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by lancerdealer

P.S. the timing belts in all MITSU's are a maintenance item due to be replaced at 60K miles. After that, it is a tickng time bomb. Our rule is that if you replace it BEFORE it breaks it will cost you about 10% of what it will cost you WHEN it breaks.
You would just think that engineers would try to make a standard wear-and-tear item a little easier to change. The cost of maintenance for my Mitsu is starting to look like the cost of maintaining a German car, but without the performance of a German car! As much as I never thought I'd say it, my next car will probably be a Honda. A Honda transmission costs about the same as a Mitsubishi timing belt!
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:31 AM
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You would just think that engineers would try to make a standard wear-and-tear item a little easier to change. The cost of maintenance for my Mitsu is starting to look like the cost of maintaining a German car, but without the performance of a German car! As much as I never thought I'd say it, my next car will probably be a Honda. A Honda transmission costs about the same as a Mitsubishi timing belt!
Sadly you have a point! But my next car will not be a honda...LOL


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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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^ . . . uhm the optima red top i have has outlasted three cars and will still cycle a starter at -10 degrees without ANY hesitation . . . and since when do we have a mitsu dealer on the boards ?
Since Aug 04, Until a little while ago I was just a lurker on the lancer boards. Thanks for noticing me! LOL
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:18 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Not true. We replace lots of timing belts and if there is evidence of the pump leaking or starting to seep, we will advise the customer of that condition. There is nothing that indicates that the water pump is guaranteed to start leaking just because you take the load off and re-load it. It may have happened to you but in the last 10 years of selling only Mitsu parts to our Mitsu only service department I've never heard of such a thing. We sell things to customers that they NEED. Not things they MIGHT or MIGHT NOT need. Thats bad info dude.
Lets do some deductive reasoning. Whats a water pump good for? I say 100k if you are lucky.

If you change the timing belt at 60k and not the waterpump the next time you have to tear enough off to get to the water pump is at 120k. It may last that long and it might not why roll the dice? When you can swap it at the same time as the timing belt. Its right there and easy to do.

It also gives you an excuse to drain the cooling system and refill it which needs to be done also. You should flush it but changing the fluid helps.

Bad info my butt, I am stopping foolishness that costs a lot of money later. I guess if you were going to unload it before it hits a 100k miles it makes sense to do only what you absolutely need to. My point of view is I am stuck with this thing to the bitter end since its illeagal as hell so I do what should be done so I don't get hosed later.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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I had my water pump inspected and have been told everything was fine. That was when I had 60k miles on. Changed my timing belt, left the water pump in. Now, I'm probably going to change the camshaft and the cam gear before I will hit 100k. Then I will replace my water pump with Autozone Water Pump with 10 year warranty!
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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how can i tell if the timing belt was changed? i got my car used from a real dealership at 53000 miles, do you think they changed the belt?
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:30 PM
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go outside and look at it .. if u see alot of little cracks in the belt, its time for a change.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 12:35 PM
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i am approaching 90k in the comming days so i should set this up in the comming days...
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by airlinevomitbag
Lets do some deductive reasoning. Whats a water pump good for? I say 100k if you are lucky.

If you change the timing belt at 60k and not the waterpump the next time you have to tear enough off to get to the water pump is at 120k. It may last that long and it might not why roll the dice? When you can swap it at the same time as the timing belt. Its right there and easy to do.

It also gives you an excuse to drain the cooling system and refill it which needs to be done also. You should flush it but changing the fluid helps.

Bad info my butt, I am stopping foolishness that costs a lot of money later. I guess if you were going to unload it before it hits a 100k miles it makes sense to do only what you absolutely need to. My point of view is I am stuck with this thing to the bitter end since its illeagal as hell so I do what should be done so I don't get hosed later.
Can you justify to a customer that there is nothing wrong with the water pump but you should change it anyway? I can't. I'm sorry MR. customer, I realize that your tires LOOK new but I think you should change them anyway you just never know what can happen!! If you want to charge somebody for something they MIGHT need at an undetermined time then go right ahead. I believe that if it is broken then fix it, if it's not then don't. You cannot tell with any degree of acuracy when a part is going to fail and I fail to see how your conscience will allow you to charge somebody for something that isn't broken. A water pump is not considered a maintenance part and therefore it's life span is undetermined. You charge somebody for something that is a justifiable repair. A water pump that might fail is not a justifable repair unless you can see evidence of a problem. Will it fail? Probably. Can it fail? Yes! Is it guaranteed to to fail at a specific mileage? Absolutely not.

This system might work for you personally, but as a standard practice for a business it's unethical.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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^ Makes sense. My dealership said the water pumps USUALLY are rotting by 60k so they USUALLY replace it anyway. I'm not happy with my dealership now that John Muir is gone though, so I'm going to an old family friend mechanic to get it done.
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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:47 PM
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My dealer ship said the water pumps in the lancer are very reliable and selome ever fail at all. So mine is staying in till I sell the car.

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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Centrylancer
i am approaching 90k in the comming days so i should set this up in the comming days...
do you hear the rimng belt "buzzing" when the engin is under load??? I had that noise, gone once I changed the belt!


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Old Feb 21, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by kott_tot
how can i tell if the timing belt was changed? i got my car used from a real dealership at 53000 miles, do you think they changed the belt?
Highly doubt it.
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