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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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I was curious if to start out on a stock car that an ECUFlash to my OZ Rally would be a good start. What would be the outcomes of it? Would it be worth the money? how much does it usually run? who would you send the ecu to, or is it something I can do at home?

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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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I was curious if to start out on a stock car that an ECUFlash to my OZ Rally would be a good start. What would be the outcomes of it? Would it be worth the money? how much does it usually run? who would you send the ecu to, or is it something I can do at home?

Thanks in advance.

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OZ rally is what 115 HP stock? Definitley would not be worth it to modify. By the time you do all the street legal mods onto the car and possibly rip out the interior and replace some sheet metal with carbon fiber. You will have spent a fortune and it will sound/look awful. Not to mention your car will still be slow. also all the resale value will be down to nothing.

Keep it stock and have a respectable daily driver. Then save your money and buy a performance car.

Trust me, i've been down that road before with my old civics and integras back in the day when i was young. Not worth it.
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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 06:56 PM
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OZ rally is what 115 HP stock? Definitley would not be worth it to modify. By the time you do all the street legal mods onto the car and possibly rip out the interior and replace some sheet metal with carbon fiber. You will have spent a fortune and it will sound/look awful. Not to mention your car will still be slow. also all the resale value will be down to nothing.

Keep it stock and have a respectable daily driver. Then save your money and buy a performance car.

Trust me, i've been down that road before with my old civics and integras back in the day when i was young. Not worth it.
Thanks, I appreciate the feedback, instead of negativity. I apologize for posting in the wrong forum, get over it.

I'll probably just make this one a show car, and then go for performance on the Evo IX I'm lookin' at....

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Old Dec 25, 2007 | 10:11 PM
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Thanks, I appreciate the feedback, instead of negativity. I apologize for posting in the wrong forum, get over it.

I'll probably just make this one a show car, and then go for performance on the Evo IX I'm lookin' at....

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Yea, it's just not worth it to modify it. Only thing you can do is add some forced induction which will not keep it legal. Considering all the street legal mods, you will spend a fortune just to get it up to 140-150whp. It's totally not worth it considering even some family sedans will still beat you in a race.
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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Gah. So why do I see accords at the drag, and lancer OZ at the drag, haulin ***, but yet supposedly I can't?

I don't understand the logic behind this. More explanation would be helpful, I appreciate it.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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Gah. So why do I see accords at the drag, and lancer OZ at the drag, haulin ***, but yet supposedly I can't?

I don't understand the logic behind this. More explanation would be helpful, I appreciate it.

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What do you consider, "haulin' ***"? Like a 15-16 sec 1/4 mile?
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:15 PM
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What do you consider, "haulin' ***"? Like a 15-16 sec 1/4 mile?
Well considering they are 4 cylinders without very many modifications, yeah only 12-14 seconds. 1/4 Mile

My buddy drives a 2004 Suburu Impreza WRX 1.8T, and he hits an easy 12 on the 1/4 mile.

My honda stock, merely goes 60 mph, in about 10 seconds, so it's no feat. But... I was hoping there were chances of me soupin it up.

Otherwise, I have a 69 Chevy C10 with a 305...

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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why do you want to make an economy grocery getter fast? if you want a fast car its definately not a lancer OZ or a honda accord...can you? yes you can...it all depends how deep your pockets are...but why would you want to? You want a fast drag car...get a mustang 5.0...cheap to mod and can make it fast for the track...or just save a lot of money and get an eVo...eitherway you will spend a lot on performance parts plus labor to make the OZ comparable as to other faster grocery getters...so its stupid to start with...
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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why do you want to make an economy grocery getter fast? if you want a fast car its definately not a lancer OZ or a honda accord...can you? yes you can...it all depends how deep your pockets are...but why would you want to? You want a fast drag car...get a mustang 5.0...cheap to mod and can make it fast for the track...or just save a lot of money and get an eVo...eitherway you will spend a lot on performance parts plus labor to make the OZ comparable as to other faster grocery getters...so its stupid to start with...
I appreciate the brutal honesty. That's just not the way I looked at it I guess. I guess I considered it, because apparently around here nobody has a fast car considering I hardly ever lose when it comes to a Block to Block. Whether it's against a turbo or not. My OZ has beaten a Suburu Impreza WRX 1.8T, it's beaten a Jetta 1.8T, and all it is, is stock.

I guess I'll have to buy an Evo and just take my OZ and make it a showcar, minus the performance.

*sigh* What a noob I are.

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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i vote for the evo8/9 although not meant to be drag cars the 4g63 is one of the strongest blocks out there, but be prepared to dump $$ when it comes to modding and maintenance/insurance isn't really cheap to begin with
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i vote for the evo8/9 although not meant to be drag cars the 4g63 is one of the strongest blocks out there, but be prepared to dump $$ when it comes to modding and maintenance/insurance isn't really cheap to begin with

Hmm.. But do you think that $25k is worth it for almost 60k miles, and an 03 probably 90% stock?

*shrugs*

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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:19 PM
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Hmm.. But do you think that $25k is worth it for almost 60k miles, and an 03 probably 90% stock?

*shrugs*

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negative to that one too...I paid $29K for mine and it had like 1700 miles on it when I got it...its also an 06 and not an 03...
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:24 PM
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negative to that one too...I paid $29K for mine and it had like 1700 miles on it when I got it...its also an 06 and not an 03...
I didn't think so either, I was thinking about offering my Honda & maybe 15k

that would be the equivelant of maybe 16k.. my honda has 200k and is running strong. I'd miss the honda, but for a evo 8,I'd take it.. cus I'd probably swap motors after about 150k or so.

I wonder what they'd say to that offer........worthless places 8-)

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I didn't think so either, I was thinking about offering my Honda & maybe 15k

that would be the equivelant of maybe 16k.. my honda has 200k and is running strong. I'd miss the honda, but for a evo 8,I'd take it.. cus I'd probably swap motors after about 150k or so.

I wonder what they'd say to that offer........worthless places 8-)

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yeah they prolly not gonna do that...they are in business to make money not loose money...but it would be cool if they did though...eVo VIII for 16K that would be a deal...
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Old Dec 26, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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yeah they prolly not gonna do that...they are in business to make money not loose money...but it would be cool if they did though...eVo VIII for 16K that would be a deal...
That's what I was thinking. I'm sure they'd make money easy off of 18k or 20 at a minimum.

I'll see what I can work out of him. I'll be like.. "Ok, first off I'm a huge car enthusiest (true but I don't know much about 'em, I'm a computer geek) and an 06 of this car books at 29, and your looking to sell an 03 for 25, and it's used? I'll give you 15, cash.

lol.



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EDIT: The Kelly Blue Book retail value is booked at 24k Maybe he's in the right ballpark range. I'll have to look further into it and see what it's got for upgrades other than a partial carbon fiber spoiler and what not. It's a nice car don't get me wrong if I had $25 grand, I'd buy it no questions asked. But, seeing as how I don't, I want to see how far they're willing to negotiate.

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