Don't get TC if you have no desire to tune it.

 

yes the turbo is tempting, but after droping 4k just on turbo, than another say..2-3k, to be running like lor 14's makes me cry..lol

 

haha

 

To gain 3 seconds for 3 g's really ain't bad.

 

its way more than 3g's man.

4g's for the turbo, lets say..2g's for other things like headers/exhaust/t.b. etc etc

thats 6g's to go from 17 seconds to 14 seconds, or low 13's if u got it all hooked up right

 

Lets keep positive thoughts!!! I mean My OZ Rally faster than a 60thousand dollar hummer! Over even quicker than a 100thousand dollar 18Wheeler!

 

rofl thats true, and its faster than a civic, and similarly modded it stays faster and best thing about auto...it can stay in 2nd gear til like 65mph, making those short red light sprints kik ***! lol

 

All summed up right there, if you don't want to sit in your car for long periods of time trying to get it tuned right, dont TC it. N/a Isn't a bad way to go, get a SAFC if you want to get into actual tuning though. No offense, and I have had cars like this too, anyone can have a CAI and a cat back. But if you wanna talk the talk you can without digging into the bottom end of the engine, get a RPW stage2 cam, A SAFC and a EGT gauge.

 

Hmm intresting....how much would that run? As far as money and power gains what are we looking at? Do you have links to where one can buy? thanks

 

Very good suggestion (coming from a guy who has spent about $2000 on suspension alone, and constantly tailgates turbocharged cars around corners on race tracks and autocross) But it does depend on what you want out of it. I'll be dropping another $2000 into NA engine mods over the next few years.

 

The cam can be had at www.rpw.com.au/ but I think they have a US distributor too, call visionimports. The SAFC and EGT can be had at almost any performance website. Those two are the absolute minimum for tuning like that. Some sort of datalogger (not sure if they have one for the lancer) or a wideband O2 sensor would be best.

As for prices
Cams: you'll need to call vision imports but for a stage 2 youll need stronger valve springs, fuel pressure regulator and a SAFC to run it. It may sound like a lot but its really not that hard to get running right, but I would recommend a shop put the springs in. However a stage 1 cam does not need anything else to run right.
Price estimated at $300-$400

EGT: $120 up to really expensive. I bought my Greddy 52mm EGT for $145 new. Not that hard to put in, tons of insight all over the internet.

SAFC: $340 - $400 since the SAFC II came out you can pick up a SAFC I for $250 on ebay and theres not too many changes. Unless your good with spliceing/soldering wires, might want to let a shop put it in. And not difficult to tune. I'm sure a lot of people would be happy to walk you through it, I would no problem.

Wide Band O2 sensor: I've seen prices around $400, a really valuable tuning tool, another job you might want a shop to do. I dont know how difficult it is since I've never seen one get put in. This with a EGT might be to best way to tune without a dyno IMO.

There you go you could get out as little as $670, and IMO this is the best route to go if you dont want to TC it or pull out the bottom end. Cant say how much power will be gained, its up to whos tuning the car.

 

dont give this guy wrong information, it has been said over time and time again that an SAFC WILL NOT work with the lancer, you need some kind of full standalone or piggyback (i suggest aem ems or greddy e-manage) as far as tuning the turbo from rrm, why? you dont have to tune it? not unless your going with real big PSI

 

I have S-AFC and turbo and it doesnt do **** when you try to tune it i even got an wbo2 sensor that hooks up to my exhaust... still can tune it for ****.. im gonna scrap the afc and buy the piggyback and hopefully it will fix my problem


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AFC's don't work on the lancer. People keep trying and saying they will but they won't. ECU doesn't see the positive numbers so AFC will only take out the fuel not add. Although RRM has said this many times people keep trying not knowing that the ecu is setup for NA not Turbo thus the AFC is not designed for its parameters. Why do you think RRM doesn't sell them?? Why do you think they sell the piggy backs? AFC's are great when dealing with an ecu that is compatable. Sell the AFC and get the piggy back. Piggy back is more accurately tuned anyway for not much more than most AFC's. [\quote]

 

btw.. boe said that

 

probably best to get rrm ecu, but its not totally true that a safc does not work. if that were true, my car wouldn't be running. if the ecu only sees negative numbers and not positive, a upgraded fuel system designed to flow more fuel than stock would need negative numbers and not positive. this is in terms for a NA app, of course.

...but then again, positive numbers work on my setup also...