oz lancer. mods: nonIC rrm turbo, rrm header, test pipe, 2.25 exhaust

 

So it would be likely that we (non-turbo) would have seen about a 5-10 hp difference, right?

 

makes sense to me but i aint no smartie

 

things are looking a lot brighter huh brian? hehehehe

 

lol, yeah if I'm making more than 110 tq and 120 hp with what I have now, I can expect to see some really nice numbers when I'm finished. Just hope they make an emissions legal header soon.

 

i would assume that the discrepency found on the turbo lancer should carry on to our NA ones. reason being that we have the same gear ratios and final drive. and with each gear being a torque multiplier and hp being a function of torque, discrepency wouldn't have much to do with environment. discrepency would be about 12% between the two gears.

but, of course, this is all theory at this point
(or maybe the thought of having more hp at all makes me feel better)

 

That's damn pretty close w/o correction. Multiply your dyno 1 by .15% for driveline lost on a FWD and add that value to your dyno 1. Blamo.

It's damn close w/o correction. With correction, you're hitting 138-140 HP. The PDA is worth its salt!

Now, run your car at the track against a 2g RS/GS or Spyder or a 3g RS/GS (stock or lightly modded w/o exhaust work). You'll be surprised watch your lancer can do to them.

 

correction on my part.

 

the guy stopped at 6k and didnt go over so the hp on the graph falls, so i wonder. by 5850rpm, the AF is 12.0:1 or a bit lower so AF on the top end is okay. the midrange was just bad tuning on my part and could easily be remied. before the dyno i even LOWERED 5k+rpm by 2% so if i hadn't had done that, i would've been richer. also, none of my corrections on my HI settings go above +6% meaning i have decent room to work with still across the board. i had not dynoed on my PDA with these settings so imma go do that today or tomorrow to compare with yesterdays dyno, and then retune my midrange afterwards.

can you believe this AF curve exists between a narrowband tune of .90v-.94v? NARROW-band!!!

 

Come down man, OZ is known not to make to much whp even with your mode, infact sorry to say that but they are nothing, you got what a header??? thats going to give u like 3 to 6 whp if you are lucky. I was at the same dyno with my EVO (just moved here from DC) and they did great they were nice, fast and they gave me great numbers. Even if he ran your car at 4th gear you would of got couple extra whp, does not make a difference, infact they had a HHHHUUGGGEE fan that made your car freeze, tell me not??? OZ is not WHP car so dont try to get power with out a turbo. There dyno was sooo right because i dynoed my car back home and it gave me realy close numbers plus its a brand new dyno.

 

So, I'm reading the AFR wrong. It's good to fall below the redline.

If it's the case, then, you'll definately make power until fuel cut around 6200. Might as well gear it up in 4th gear.

Then again, the guy punched it to 5900 in dyno 2. It dropped ever so slightly or it's starting to plateau. Well, the header did its job by expanding your powerband.

 

will your power is dropping after 5000 RPM so even if he kept pushing after redline its not going to jump back up like a magice wave. so what you want like 3 or 4 extra whp you are crying about???

 

yeah, you might be right. this car is powered by hopes and dreams did you dyno your car back at home in what gear? what SAE? numbers are numbers and can be skewed in such ways. apparently no one knows for sure behind the discrepency of gears. also, we're trying to squeeze as much as we can out of this engine. we can't put a glass ceiling there just because someone who could afford an evo says so. say we were right and i was pushing 130whp. thats close to 150 crank hp and isn't bad at all for an NA car. that's in no way near a crappy turboed cars numbers(lower hp turboed cars). i'm not stupid into thinking i can go big hp without a turbo. but i do believe there is a reasonable NA limit that is achievable. also, this is personally a testament to my own knowledge in tuning what i got. how many people you know got a NA lancers tuning with an safc(or even seen on EVOM)?

and aside from all this, yes, they were REALLY nice guys at LAPD. they bought pizza and everything. and there was that crazy small *** dog the size of my foot. i would actually go back to them.

 

who's crying? point is knowing where peak hp is. besides, i'm not a peak hp person. i'd rather have a meaty midrange.

 

Look i am not hurshing your OZ, i realy respect the OZ and alot of other cars, but what i am talking about here is you saying the guy did not use 4th gear??? so what if he did not infact the only difference will be more accurte whp chart that it, because it is for a longer time(on 4th gear). they dynoed my EVO @ 3thrd gear as well. and i was up by 5 hp and down by 3 wtq. It was a hot dat though.