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Old Feb 22, 2004, 08:52 PM
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Actually, looking at his graph, his hp was still climbing when he let off the gas. Mine, on the other hand, was starting to diminish before he ended the test, so I did get peak numbers. Of course, I informed him that my rev limiter was raised to 6900 and I think he went pretty close to that. Hard to tell since my graph shows mph. For my own peace of mind and to be modest and safe, I'll guess no more than 5 hp difference for pulling in 4th gear.
Old Feb 22, 2004, 08:53 PM
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thanks and all for the respect. the question of the day is if gears do skew hp. if a gear is a torque multiplier, and hp is a function of torque, does the overall curve of both hp and tq change between 3rd and 4th? that's what i'm getting at. is there any discrpency from pulling in 3rd as opposed to the 1:1 gear of 4th?
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yes on 4th gear you get about 3 to 5 hp and you loose tq
Old Feb 22, 2004, 09:00 PM
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Originally posted by Az3ar
yes on 4th gear you get about 3 to 5 hp and you loose tq
well if thats true, i missed my target hp by 1hp at ~119hp. good times
Old Feb 22, 2004, 09:02 PM
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oh, I'd lose torque? Darn. No matter, I autocross in 2nd anyway. And I agree, those guys were really cool, adn very close by for me. I plan on seeing them again when I finish my engine work. It may be a slow car, but it's gonna be a fast slow car
Old Feb 22, 2004, 09:02 PM
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Originally posted by Az3ar
will your power is dropping after 5000 RPM so even if he kept pushing after redline its not going to jump back up like a magice wave.
First off, all lancer guys know the limitation/ceiling on power going NA. It may not be WHP monster like those +1000 flywheel HP Supra TT W/ NOS (don't believe those exist - check out their annual TX meet, their version of Buschur DSM meet. Most DSM'ers know that they can never hit those #'s in their wildest dream. If Evo owners think their car can do it, then, the person should show up the vast lot of them in the TX meet).

You've read the dyno wrong. TQ dropped below the 5K mark as it should be. HP peaked around the 5800-5900 mark.
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but see its an equasion, perfect one infact, you gain hp and you loose tq if its up to me i would take tq because thats what makes your car live in 0 to 30 and 0 to 60, just a thought
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i was talking about tq his power start dropping , for me i care about tq first then hp, thats why
WRC EVO is 400 wtq, all real racing cars have highr tq than hp
Old Feb 22, 2004, 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by Az3ar
all real racing cars have highr tq than hp
Like mine
Old Feb 22, 2004, 11:14 PM
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Originally posted by Az3ar
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i was talking about tq his power start dropping , for me i care about tq first then hp, thats why WRC EVO is 400 wtq, all real racing cars have highr tq than hp
His TQ figure is still higher than HP. His TQ starts dropping at 5K rpm, and it's about right where normal TQ figure should drop for an apexing HP. Besides, I don't know of any car making TQ around the 6K rpm. Don't know about NHRA funny cars or top fuel that can blast over 200 mph w/ ease.

Also, Mitsu designed the G94 w/ TQ in mind. It won't go out of whack w/o upgrading a cam.

On the EVO, that cannot be said true once you start upgrading. You can gain it w/ tuning a bit, but ultimately HP will win out. How do you gain massive TQ on the Evo motor . . . easy, use the G64 crank. Thereby, you will get even TQ and HP figure by sacrificing a bit of top end rpm.
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Hey rhyzin its me Eckers! lol, chris right? and im sure u forgot my name already but its all cool. dont wanna go too off toic but did u end up making it to the meet?

o and btw the people over at LA performance were very cool people, and, even though i didnt dyno my car i learned a **** load of new stuff, and got free pizza!
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when did u get free pizaa what time cuz i was there and there was noooo pizza
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really? u didnt get pizza? maybe it was after you left. i remember you tho, u were the stock white evo from dc, remember we were talking about going 150+ in texas, crazy multi car races, good times good times
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haaaaaaa, i should of waited for the pizza, lol
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damn, i can't remember your name. i really really tried to remember but i have the ****tiest memory. but i remember ecrs! hehehe. sorry man. but yeah, i made the meet... really late! stupid 405. took me 2 hours to drive 70 miles! that has never happened to me before without there being an accident. stupid LA traffic.

got to the meet late and everyone was gone within 20 mins of me getting there. so i went to go eat dinner with the people that were left at some restaurant called BJ's. it was pretty good but it took 2 hours to seat all 17+ of us.... that sucked. but overall was a good trip down south.


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