i just wonder why companies don't do it. i was in the ralliart forum and some one posed rrm dyno'ed the ralliart at 145 whp. WHY THE HELL AREN'T THEIR PRODUCTS DYNO'ED!!!!!!!! same thing with other companies. i'm not trying to bash rrm but it makes me mad that companies don't at least dyno their turbo kits. ripp dyno's theirs.....and thats all i know. that new turbo kit for 1999.99 also does not have dyno'ed #'s.......WHY CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOUR KITS DON'T GET DYNO'ED!!!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!

if you have a legit reason i will feel stupid and talk good about your product. once again i'm not picking on rrm, look at the newbie forum i recommend ya'll to every newbie looking for mods. its just a question about dyno's! and only dyno's! i know your kits and mods add great power, i just wish we got some numbers. thats all.

 

some are dynoed.

if you bother to use the search button you might have found this out.

 

Here's why: Say you are RRM and you dyno the shop-car with the intercooled turbo kit on it and it puts down 190hp. And you advertise that "This kit makes 190whp" and some one buys it and slaps it on their broken down POS and they get it dyno'd at 180whp. Then what? That dude goes around slamming the company.

Every vehicle is a different situation, they all have their own set of variables, and if you make a claim someone inevitably is going to stick it to you with that claim. The diffecence may be because of gas, air temperature, elevation, etc...

Another thing that I am aware of is every dyno is a little different, the dyno at Jims Garage may read a little higher than the one at Joes Garage. If I owned one of these companies I would be hesitant to make any exact dyno claims at all other than estimates.

I imagine they have to protect themselves from Daddy Warbuck's son Johnny whose turbo kit only made 189whp when it was supposed to make 190whp and he has all the money in the world to sue them out of bussiness. I dont blame them a bit.

 

awe man thats f***ed up good point. now i'm thinking about deleting my post. or editing it so that it no llonger complaines about dyno's. thats a good point about the sueing part.

 

If you spend 400 dollars on a catback exhaust, would it really be worth spending 100 dollars to dyno it. It's not really worth the cost for most buyers to dyno our cars after each mod.

 

yeah i know but companies have dyno machines. they makes thousands of dollars.

 

Not all companies. Very few do. I think if every company had one, more products would get dynoed.

 

the thing is that they do have them.

 

i think every product should be dyno'd. even tho each car may give different results for the mod they put on, customers should UNDERSTAND that.

it would be best that the customers buying their products know these are cost effective items, and they should also have an idea of how effective they are. customers do have the right to ***** about the product they bought if it didnt give them satisfactory results, but those people are just immature. just give a disclaimer about the dyno results. Say "actual results may vary" and there won't be any lawsuits or anything.

most tuners don't want to dish out 100 bucks for after each mod they do to get their car dyno'd so i think a company like RRM should dyno their car with each of the products put on so customers can get an idea of what the gains may be (of course, actual results may vary).

Hopefully, RRM will listen to this idea because it is pretty reassuring to know how much of a gain a product can give you. you listening to this Rob?

 

another fact is that dyno time does cost $$ .. its not cheap. its my understanding that rrm doesn't have an inhouse dyno and hasta go somewhere, rent a dyno and run the car.

research and development for the product costs quite a bit as it stands, throwing dyno time on there for an intake, exhaust, new plug wires, etc. isn't really that realistic. for something along the lines of a turbo, SC, ecu, etc., it would make sense but for cheaper parts, it seems like a waste for the company.

i personally would like to see more products dyno'd but i can see why companies dont always do it ...

 

That's right, RRM does not have an in shop dyno. And furthermore, their test cars aren't always stock. So, for example, if they dyno their test car when they add a piggy-back, but the car already has intake, TB, header, and exhaust, it's not going to show gains for a lancer with different mods or no mods.

And for the record, RRM and its representatives have dynoed many products. The reflash was dynoed on one modded na lancer, one lancer with only an intake, and a highly tuned turbo lancer. Plans to dyno the turbo auto (no other mods) fell through, but will happen soon, the project lancer will get on the dyno soon (a good indication of what happens if you do all of the recommended mods from RRM). That's all I can think of right now, run a search and you will find some of them.

Also, I was unaware that ripp dynoed their product. Last time I checked, they were advertising expected gains???

 

ripp still testing but came out with 222whp 217wtq

 

Speaking of testing their products...

///RRM Drag Project dyno and ETs

 

 

I think one of the main reason is that it takes TIME, in another word, it takes MONEY.