hello everyone!

I went to my dealer yesterday to talk about mods and warranty...
I told the guy that i was planning to get an RRM intake and exhaust , HID's etc..
and of course the question was : how does it affect the warranty?

Well , he told me that it doesn't affect the warranty unless **** happens and the problem was caused by your mod (hint hint : if anything in the engine happens that's what they're gona say)... and then ur doomed.

So i asked him , does that happen frequently with an intake for example?

he replied : yeah it can happen very easily , for example if your driving when it's raining , your intake might suck water into the engine and ruin it (especially if u rev too high)... I personally think thats Bullsh*t!

A lot of you guys know a lot more than me and thats y i'm asking... is he bullsh*tting me?? lol

thanks

 

true...

thats why you need to take off the mods before you get it serviced.

 

yeah but it ur engine blows they're gona know why 4 sure!! i don't think they're that dum lol

I'm seriously starting to think that mods are really not worth risking one of the best warranties on the market..

exept HID's tho..they dont harm nobody

 

RRM's is a short RAM intake, not a Cold air intake. The Cold air intake points down and goes all the way down under the car for cooler air. So if u are crossing a stream, yeah, u'll get in trouble. I've had a RAM intake in my mirage for 2 years now... with a vent in the hood for it and NEVER had a problem. The amount of water needed for you to be able to pull into the engine to blow it is way too much. U should have no problem with the RAM intake. And yes, it's true that it wont mess up ur warranty unless the MOD is related to the problem. They could always tell you that an intake will mess up the AIR/Fuel ratio... so they could just not cover ur engine....

 

hasnt this already been talked about? what and what doesnt void warranties

 

You get used to answering the same questions repeatedly.

That can't happen with the RRM intake. It's hidden away from any water and it's up near the hood. You'll be fine.

I have yet to see an exhaust hurt the car. You'll be fine with that.

Good luck on the HIDs. I don't know if there's a solid kit available yet, and I know there's been lots of discussion about the difficulties turning off the DRLs.

The three parts you mention are harmless. Once you get into the bigger mods, it might be more of a problem. But at any time, sh*t can happen, as you know.

 

sucking up water in your engine wont ruin it either, itl just be a ***** to start back but no harmful effects

 

WRONG

Read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydrolock

bye bye engine if you get too much water in it.

 

Water will destroy your engine. Maybe not a small spray, but if you get some water into the intake----Bye bye engine.

 

Most CAIs are at or higher than the top level of the tire and or headlights, btw. It is very unlikely that you will get water in a significant amount in your engine from a well designed and installed CAI.

The RRM is essentially a short ram, or HAI (hot air intake) if you like.

CAI (cold air intake) involves longer/better piping (though often more bends, which is arguably bad) to either a replacement stock box (one that is free flowing and often insulated) or to some other spot with better flow from the outside (and thus cooler air as well, when compared to a ram/HAI).

A lip intake is similar to a FWI, just a front intake tube that routes up along side (usually) your rad to the intake... coolest air is low, but this is the most difficult and dangerous intake due to water issues and even debris, usually only seen at he track.

The FWI (fenderwell intake) is arguably the best of the intake types, depending on routing and number of bends. Most drop a tube through the left or right structural part of the fender in the engine compartment and into a low position that is still somewhat protected but still drawing cool air in front of the tire (though sometimes behind) on the other side of the soft part of the wheel well cover.

There are also hood rams, hood rams to a CAI box, and other NA types of intakes but these are the most common mods out there on the 'low end'.

Less bends and proper flow in the pipe is better. Cooler air source is better.

Some rams/HAIs utilize some kind of heat shield btw given that they usually are well inside the engine compartment and surrounded by hot air and usually close to the exhaust or manifold... the shield cuts down on direct heatsoaking from the heat generated by a manifold, for instance.

There is always been a long standing debate between which intake is best. Personally, it is very dependent on the routing inside the hood (and out of the engine compartment), bends and flow, temps, etc. I suspect that in our 2.0 GTS a ram/HAI is going to be the best solution... far less bends and more direct flow with a relatively large dead space (relatively) well away from the exhaust headers (which are shielded)... trying to route a CAI or FWI with or without moving the battery is going to be a lot of bends and turns, not too mention expense and difficulty in installation.

My two cents.

I have experience with both CAI and FWI. I installed one then the other in my 04 Grand Prix GT2. The FWI using a flexible rubber 4" tube to a massive cone filter forward fo the tire sucked in TONS of cool air, very noticeable jump in performance over the more restrictive CAI kit I got (and it was insulated in a plexi and padded box). Some club guys remove their front left headlight and route a CAI tube right to the opening at the track, very effective for NA cars.

 

With a CAI there is a quick fix for preventing water getting into the intake. You just have to have a bypass valve and you wont have any problem with water, no matter where the intake is installed.

 

thank you..surprised this didnt come up sooner.

A week after I got my GTS The highway on the way home was flooded....flooded so bad that the entire hood of an accord was underwater... and a saturn and some other car... "Hey look, car underwater, lets also drive through! YAY"

Needless to say I pulled over and 20 minutes they unclogged the drain and it drain out. Amazing how many people try and drive through when water is by their windows...

 

Damn homie, where in NJ do you live that you got flooded? I have family in Atlantic City, Newark and Jersey City, I've never seen flood....now I live in florida and I wake up to water in my bed, but that's different story

 

I am in Union Beach, but last year we lived in Saddle Brook and saw flooding like that and worse all the time. That whole area around the Saddle River or what ever is a mess.

 

There is a law (forgot what its called) that prevents any dealer from voiding your warranty for parts installed, unless that part caused the problem.

For example:
You buy a RRM intake, and then your passenger air bag goes off for no reason at all. The dealer CAN NOT BY LAW void your warranty because of the intake.

BUT,

If you put on an intake and your filter falls off and all kinds of crap go into the motor and screw it up......they can void it.