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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:07 PM
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Any pointers on how to drive the shift mode on the CVT lancer?
I've never driven a manual before....
One piece of advice I can give you is. Do not fool around with gear 1 when you doing turns. Because the car doesnt have a limited slip differential the car can easily lose control if your beating on it.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 01:19 PM
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shifting isn't a problem for me, the problems are slowing down and speeding up and downshifting and cruising.... its all on timing and when to do what... evosoul do u drive in D mode or sports mode?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
One piece of advice I can give you is. Do not fool around with gear 1 when you doing turns. Because the car doesnt have a limited slip differential the car can easily lose control if your beating on it.
this is about the only advice you need about the car. everything else you can play with and learn yourself. but do NOT be above 3.5rpm taking a turn. if you're out of first then you are ok.
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 02:32 PM
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why didnt Mitsubishi do something about that? so no 3500 rpm on a right or left turn in gear 1 or in any gear?
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Old Jul 13, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Newuser213
why didnt Mitsubishi do something about that? so no 3500 rpm on a right or left turn in gear 1 or in any gear?
Because you--the driver--are supposed to either know or figure out that revving it that high while taking off and turning is a bad idea? The whole point of the paddle shifters is to be able to control the car more yourself.

Honestly, I figured the paddle shifters out by borrowing a friend who'd used paddle shifters before to sit in the passenger's seat and tell me how to use them. Someone who knows how to drive a manual could probably do the same. The whole point of using the paddle shifters on the street (just like a manual) is to keep revs as low as possible while having enough power to move forward or accelerate at the speed you want to go. The upside is that you don't have to worry about stalling, as the car automatically downshifts if you let the revs drop to, gosh, below 1K (IIRC). You might bend this "keep revs as low as you can" rule a bit for twisty country roads where you're free to accelerate a bit more, but in traffic, it's kinda rude (and reeeeally ricetard) to rev the snot out of your engine everywhere you go. Usually mine's around 2-3K if I'm farting around in town. You don't have as much power to accelerate at lower revs than you do >3500, so, you'd have to go back down to a lower gear if you want to accelerate more quickly.

Over 3500K in first is fine if you're doing something like an autocross and need the extra torque to move you forward as quickly as possible. It gets kind of squirrely if you try to set off in 1 like you would in D, though. Sometimes I've forgotten that I was using the paddle shifters in traffic, stopped for a light, had the car shift itself back to 1 like it does and then when I go to set off around a corner...squeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaakkkkkkk. That's embarrassing. So, if you switch over to use the paddles, pay attention to what number it's in and what the rev counter's doing and adjust your driving style accordingly. Since RPM climbs a lot faster in 1 than it does in D, you don't need to press down the gas as hard as you would with the car in D.

The only way you're going to figure out how the car behaves if by actually driving it, though, so, um...the best advice I can give is to get off the internet and go play with them.

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Old Jul 15, 2011 | 10:13 PM
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shifting isn't a problem for me, the problems are slowing down and speeding up and downshifting and cruising.... its all on timing and when to do what... evosoul do u drive in D mode or sports mode?
when slowing just push the brakes and when you get back on the gas if the car feels like its not speeding up fast enough just go into a lower gear then go back into a higher gear when cruising just run through all the gears and just leave it in 6
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 09:52 PM
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if i was you i find a empty parking alot or big wearhouse and traning it.. this what i do when i instal soemthing i do that i away have a place where i can test my car.. dont do in the street it really risky. LOL
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Old Jul 21, 2011 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by evo_soul
One piece of advice I can give you is. Do not fool around with gear 1 when you doing turns. Because the car doesnt have a limited slip differential the car can easily lose control if your beating on it.
Man evosoul was right,, i have that b4 i forget to shift i was loing control my car it keep going other side of lane lucky it was not car.. o etc.. something going be happens.. gear 1 rev rpm to quick i now when i turning i go gear 1 2k or 2.5k and shift to 2 so i can turn quick without any problem..
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 02:57 PM
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Lately I feel that when I'm driving in D mode and I'm on the freeway, sometimes I feel like I'm gliding or swerving a little. Feels like i don't have control sometime or is it just too sensitive?
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Old Jul 22, 2011 | 08:13 PM
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Swerving a little sounds more like an alignment issue.

For some reason, the Lancer felt a little lighter on its wheels than other cars I've driven--especially right after I first bought mine. Now that I'm used to it, it just feels normal, but when I first got it, it didn't seem as planted to the ground as my other cars did. I'm not sure why exactly, but I think it's just how this car is set up.

You may want to have a shop check out the alignment if it's pulling one way or another, though.

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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 12:56 PM
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thats exactly how i felt....when I first got my car. Anyway I don't know how to explain it but I feel that its either a bit over sensitive or lost control, but the car does feel like its not on the ground type of effect when I'm driving on the freeway above 65+, maybe its my driving style... this happens once a while.
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Use brakes to slow your car, not the motor. The brakes are for slowing/stopping, the motor is to make it go. Brake pads are designed to wear and are cheap to replace. The motor, not so much.

Use low gears (or the equivalent in a CVT) to MAINTAIN a moderate speed when driving down a reasonably steep slope. Even then, if you need to slow or stop, use the brakes!
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Old Aug 9, 2011 | 04:50 PM
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Okay update, been messing with the sports mode past few days. I'm always driving on local streets in city or neighborhood and I noticed that I'm always on 2 or 3rd gear. My speed is around 25-40. I would usually shift all the way up to 3rd gear and let go of the gas pedal and the rpm would stay around 2900-3100 rpm, if I continue to press the gas it would make me switch to 4th gear but at the same time my speed would be over the speed limit and I don't want to get a speeding ticket. Seems to me 6th gear... the cruising gear is only used when I'm on the freeway and going about 60+ mph... Also driving in sports mode the sound/vibration seems different, it seems like when in sports mode when ever I release the gas pedal it slow down(feels like it lost power) where as in D mode I don't get that feeling and it keeps rolling. Also I hear a different sound in sports mode and its more louder? If only there is someone who has a lancer and drives sports mode so I can watch and learn.
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Now My car i put for proformance Part i can do redline first gear n2-5 5k or less.
This how i turn i break at late as possible when downshift and speed man it like your turn like a racer but dont do that if cop around lol.. Not a good sign haha
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Old Aug 13, 2011 | 09:36 PM
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I noticed that I'm always on 2 or 3rd gear. My speed is around 25-40. I would usually shift all the way up to 3rd gear and let go of the gas pedal and the rpm would stay around 2900-3100 rpm, if I continue to press the gas it would make me switch to 4th gear but at the same time my speed would be over the speed limit and I don't want to get a speeding ticket. Seems to me 6th gear... the cruising gear is only used when I'm on the freeway and going about 60+ mph...
If you're driving in a neighborhood with a 25mph limit, you may very well only need to go as high as 3rd gear because you're traveling at such a low speed. However you should easily make it to 6th gear as you're reaching 45mph. Running 45 stuck in 3rd gear makes the transmission work a lot more than it needs to and will make your car very jumpy between pressing on/off the gas pedal. If you're only making it to 3rd gear at 45mph you're waiting too long inbetween shifts. Even if you don't make it up to 6th, take your foot off the gas, shift up to at least 5th, and the resume using the gas. You'll hear the transmission stop reving so high and settle down to a much more comfy noise. This is what you should be aiming for by the time you're crusing.

Start from a stop in automatic and as you're going switch it over to sport mode just to see which gear the car is in, then you can immeadately switch back to automatic. Do this at various times, maybe 2 sec off the line, 6 sec, etc all the way to cruising speed. This will help give you an idea of what gear you're supposed to be in by x time or speed. You'll notice that it switches up the gears much faster than you'd expect. Of course the CVT isn't limited to only 6 gears so that's also somewhat why. But anyways it's not a bad way to check if you're behind or ahead in the shifting progression because the automatic will always be at the optimum gear. Nice little self check.

>it seems like when in sports mode when ever I release the gas pedal it slow down(feels like it lost power)

The CVT has a infinite number of gear ratios when in automatic. It's constantly and continually shifting up and down the ratios as needed to provide the right amount of power. When you let go of the gas in D it will shift gradually shift down to give you more power which is why you'll get the effortless crusing. If you let go in sport mode the gear ratio stays the same even though the speed is reducing. This means you're gradually moving towards a less optimum gear ratio and therefore not getting the power to keep the car coasting easily.

>Also I hear a different sound in sports mode and its more louder?

This again because of the infinite gears vs only 6 gears. In D you're never going to get high revs because it always stays at an optimum gear ratio. When you restrict it to only 6, it's stuck in one gear until you shift up even though you're gaining speed in between shifts. So if you're increasing speed from 3rd to 4th, the automatic would gradually increase the gear ratio to 3.2, 3.4, 3.6, 3.8, then 4th, giving you a nice smooth acceleration. In sport mode you're in 3rd, gaining speed, still at 3, still at 3, still at 3, still at 3, and then you shfit to 4th. You don't get those nice optimum inbetween ratios, which makes the transmission rev a little loader than D.
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