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Old Jan 27, 2006, 09:14 PM
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Balance Shaft Removal...

I searched but didnt find much about balance shaft removal in the 4G94. They arent any kits im aware of made for our engines. Anyone know if the 4g93 balance shaft eliminator, it comes with:

Balance Shaft Eliminator Parts
MD103722
Balance shaft
bearing, rear

MD040597
Balance shaft
bearing, front

MD092785
Balance shaft
cap (plug)

MD098626
Balance shaft
stub shaft

Anyone have any ideas on this? I had this mod done on my 1G, it frees up a few extra horses, and generally increases oil pressure, soething you want in a turbo setup
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Old Jan 28, 2006, 08:23 AM
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It is basically the same motor, just stroked out. So I'd say that the kit would probably work.
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Old Jan 28, 2006, 08:52 AM
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yea i fiqured it has a very similar block. I think I'm going to try and pioneer something....
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As far as i know there are no balance shafts in the Lancer... that goes for either the 2.0L and the 2.4 for the ralliart.

I've seen both torn down and there's nothing like it in there. They use an excentric gear to pump the oil... it's driven off the timing belt like the water pump is. I know on the 1G there's another belt in there and with this you eliminate that. And those shafts are like the length of the motor and weight like 5 pounds or more. Nothing like that in the lancer motors.

If you do find one in there... let us know.
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Old Jan 29, 2006, 10:15 AM
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Hmm, Interesting, I could've sworn i read on a older post we had them. Oh well I need to remove the oil pan soon. I'll be sure to check, maybe take a pic or 2
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Originally Posted by sweet_bucket22
As far as i know there are no balance shafts in the Lancer... that goes for either the 2.0L and the 2.4 for the ralliart.

I've seen both torn down and there's nothing like it in there. They use an excentric gear to pump the oil... it's driven off the timing belt like the water pump is. I know on the 1G there's another belt in there and with this you eliminate that. And those shafts are like the length of the motor and weight like 5 pounds or more. Nothing like that in the lancer motors.

If you do find one in there... let us know.
The 4G69 definitely has a counterbalance shaft. On the attached image, part number 18 is the drive sprocket for it. I'll see if I can get a better picture.
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I've had the 69 apart fully... no balance shafts that i've seen at all. If you know what one is and how the oil pump is on the 4G63 you'd see there's nothing like it in these motors.
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resurrecting a dead thread for anyone that may want to use this information...The 4G69 has two counter-balance shafts, and whoever said they don't and had the engine apart completely, is retarded. I've aslo had the engine apart, i personally own both engines, and though i have not had my 4G94 apart, i know for a fact the 69 has two externally belt driven balance shafts, the rear one is driven on it's own belt from the crank, and the front one is driven by the oil pump sprocket on the valve timing belt.

As far as i can see, i'm not sure that the 4G94 has them, if they're in there, they don't appear to be driven externally like they are on the 4G69.

I was directed here because i'm trying to find out where the balance shafts are in my 4G94, and found some very incorrect information...If anyone has anything else to add, or discuss, feel free.

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i tore my 4g94 apart not long ago and it only has the timing sprocket and the crank pulley so i think the g94 is internally balanced,could be wrong though....
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yeah, after posting this i read through the service manual, and found no reference to a balance, or counter balance shaft in the 4G94...thanks for the input.
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